again...as somebody whom I don't recall, pointed out earlier...

zero experience leading the military = zero experience leading the military

good of you to get on board with logic...

my point, modo, is that his military experience does not equate with the judgment necessary to lead the military during a time of war. And I have said so throughout the thread... and you would have seen that had you started at the beginning rather than the end...

do you read books in the same way? starting at the conclusion and working your way to the beginning?

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Well, I guess it was kinda' silly for me to think you were aware of this, considering the fact that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about:

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He retired from the Navy as a captain in 1981

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in 1976 he became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida

John McCain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

His experience is clear, and it cannot be denied...

Again, as I said, you equate JSM's military experience to none. BHO has none. It's a wash for you. Good to know, I guess.

Yet, you keep saying, "so", when one actually answers the question posed by the thread.

It's pretty hard to tell what convoluted thought will enter your mind next and then excrete that thought onto this board for all to see.

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I am discussing the topic here with several right wingers... haven't you noticed?

I am also providing information to those who do not post... those folks are called guests... this site has quite a few of them too... it's one of the reasons I liked posting here in the past and it's why I'm here now... you have a lot of guests, or lurkers, as I like to call them...

waves...

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He retired Captain McCain... do try to stay abreast of things...

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Perhaps you need to read the links I provided... as I know it was in there... IOW, reread the thread Matt, and this time also the linked sites...

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No, it's a dicussion forum. The human guests (most guests are search bots) came here to see a discussion, because, lo-and-behold, it's a discussion board. I would bet good money if they wanted to see your rabid ramblings of disconnected thoughts, they would go to a blog of yours or some other one containing such an example of disorder.

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Which is two full pay grades above LCDR...

Do a search and see. I did one. You make the hero claim.

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a real source... not wikipedia... got any?

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You're just being silly now.

You claimed someone here said McCain was their hero.

Now, you're saying someone who is a poster here made such a claim in one of your links?

Nonsense. Please get serious.

Matt

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Well, before I go digging all over the internet, perhaps you could do a few things:

Tell me what source you will accept (I'm guessing anything from MoveOn.org).

Tell me what part of what's written is untrue.

You asked for a link, and I provided you one. Don't like it? Too fuckin' bad. Wikipedia tends to be far less biased than just about anything else on the net. If you're going to assume that what's written there about McCain is untrue, well, have at it.

You would, however, be hard pressed to refute it...

yawn... are you really this obtuse or do you have to work at it?

Having military experience does not equate to having sound judgement. Several links have shown that to you and the others but... you keep saying he has experience...

so what?

He was a hot dog pilot, crashed three aircraft, was involved in a huge accident destroying several more and was shot down, in captivity he gave military information to his captors...

which part of that shows he has the judgement necessary to lead the military during wartime?

Then upon his return to the states, he continued with his career... and retired captain...

good job, John...

so tell me again which part of that illustrious military experience shows he has good judgement?

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your point? I didn't say he was a LtCmndr, simodo did...

But... you have to admit... It's not admiral...

admiral = general

General Clark said McCain's military experience didn't qualify him to be C-I-C...

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Do you even remember what the poll question (i.e. the topic of the thread) is?

Can you show me where the word "judgement" appears?

Just curious. You know, for the lurkers.

Matt

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