I'm happy for you... rotates paw in circular motion... whoopty doodoo...

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you're right... no one here actually called john mccain their hero...

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try google... I'll accept anything that isn't fox noise or wikipedia or one of those news stand rags that print BS day in day out...

perhaps you'd like to refute the links I have provided... you know... like the discreprancy between what his DFC citation read and what his bio said happened... him giving information to his captors... him crashing three aircraft...

any of that...

go ahead... make my day...



or you can just attack the messenger which is what righties do everywhere...

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For someone who claims, "so", you're quite defensive about it. And your numerous posts filled with silly and frothy paritsan convolutions are indicative of something - be it a contradiction to your oft-used "so" response, fear about McCain's military experience, or simply odd synaptic connections. No wonder you fail to see that this is a discussion forum and the guests to whom you refer (or "lurkers"), logically, are here to see a discussion. If they want to see blogs, one would think the thinking lurkers would go to a blog. It's pretty simple for those who have good wiring.

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I've said nothing, one way or the other, regarding your links. You've, however, been saying some rather retarded things about his military experience.

You asked for a link.

I gave you a link.

You whined about the link I gave you.

The guy retired as a Captain, had been selected for Rear Admiral, and served as a Commanding Officer.

You can not refute what I've provided, so you whine for something else.

Well, go pound sand. You got what you asked for...

McCain has NEVER claimed that “the Shias in Iran are training Al Qaeda to kill the Shias in Iraq”. Only Pogo and you have made such a claim. Your position must be desperate if you’re forced to stoop so low as to make such fallacious claims.

Iran has and still facilitates al Qaeda. As the 9/11 Commission, and other sources have determined, the fact that Iran is Shia and al Qaeda is Sunni, and would thus not provide aid, is a red herring.

As to your position on McCain’s military experience, you must be absolutely livid that Obama is in the running for the position of C-in-C. The closest he thing has to military experience is that he has talked to some vets. So what 3rd party candidate do you support, or are you just going to write someone in?

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And thats relavent how?

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I have no clue. How is that relavent?

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This thread contains no evidence that the right wingers have said that John McCains captivity is proof of his military command expertise.

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Better to do the search for onesself and confirm exactly who is speaking out of an orifice other than their mouth. I've confimed Matt is accurate in his assertion and you keep posting nonsense.

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Who's said that??

Nevermind, we don't expect you to ever back up your bullshit statements...

To claim that Iran is supporting al qaeda is to imply that Iranian Shia are assisting al qaeda in killing Iraqi Shia.

Your link isn't working right now but I'll check it out later. Hopefully, it provides something in the way of solid evidence.

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1) two and a half years of training as a naval aviator

2) became a naval pilot of attack aircraft

3) requested a combat assignment

4) He was flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi

5) prisoner of war for over five years - declined early release

6) attended the National War College in Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. during 1973–1974

7) served as the Navy's liaison to the U.S. Senate

8) In early 1981, he was told he would be made rear admiral; he declined the prospect, as he already made plans to run for Congress

9) in 1976 he became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida

10) His seventeen military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star and Navy Commendation Medal

11) became a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee

12) a member of the 1991–1993 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs

13) became chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee

14) co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act

15) etc, etc, etc.

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I don't even like McCain for President and it's obvious the man has military experience in spades and plenty of credibility in the area of national security too...

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I believe your claim is inaccurate. Iran’s support of al Qaeda is meant simply to strengthen their position and undermine ours. Sunni-Shia violence is simply a side effect. Iran can smooth over relations once we’ve gone. I will say that Sen. McCain’s statements were exaggerated, as is to be expected from a politician, but they weren’t totally unfounded.

For some reason, that site is incredibly slow. Here’s the article I tried to like to:

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I think there is a lot of confusion over tribal influences.

Iran supports the Shia in the south but many Iranian IEDs have found their way into Bagdad and Mosel. Al Qaeda is mostly Sunni but they have members from hundreds of countries around the world. They orignially were allied with former Saddam loyalists and they are active around the world.

Iran is working with and sheltering Muqtada al-Sadr. He is a thug who wants to be President of his own country. Most Iraqis feared him and his thug army more then Saddam yet for a time our press was attempting to show him in a positive light.........which didn't fly.

Al Qaeda specializes in suicide bombings and killing other innocent locals while al-Sadr specialized in terror in hopes of causing a civil war which al-Sadr hoped would force Iran to enter the fray on his behalf. Muqtada al-SadrThe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia coalition forces are all that stood in the way of this happening.

In truth there is no love lost between Al Qaeda and the al-Sadr militia in the South.

Any prominence al-Sadr gains will only mean Iran will have more influence on Iraqi policy.

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