I think he’s on record, as to his bias in the issue, And I dont' think its much an issue. Is anyone really arguing McCain hasn't limited practical command experience.

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He was only in 3 crashes, as I mentioned earlier.

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Interesting but the thing is, McCain was implying that Iran was supporting al-qaeda attacks against the Shia in Iraq, whereupon Joe Lieberman quickly whispered in his ear and he backtracked.

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thx..I do agree that as an admirals son he gets passes and all that entails. But I wasn't sure of the particulars, its appears he didn't need a pass, and the reference to the crashes was bias driven.

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yep... true but you left out something...

1) graduated fourth from the BOTTOM of his class...
2) it's amazing how far one can go when one's father is a four star admiral
3) true too... too bad he has flip flopped on many of his earlier positions

will the REAL John McCain please stand up...

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Mccain has experience in the military, true... Obama does not, also true... but GENERAL Wesley Clark was a commander of military forces and IMO a much better judge of military qualifications than say... you.

How far do you think McCain would have gone had his father and grandfather not been four star admirals in the Navy?

He wouldn't have become a jet fighter pilot, that's for damn sure... but since his daddy was an admiral, McCain got preferential treatment...

McCain is an elitist in the same way that bush was... their daddys pulled strings... and they reaped the benefits.

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and he made the same claim several times even AFTER being corrected publically...

got senior moments?

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That doesn't mean a damn thing. Do you have any idea what it takes to get into that school? He may have graduated fifth from the bottom, but he still got into and graduated from the United States Naval Academy.

You're right, his combat missions and experience gained from them clearly didn't have anything to do with it

You have a point here. One of the reasons I won't be voting for him.

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That's the first time I have heard that said... got a link?

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I agree. But the MEDIA doesn't say "people vote for McCain because any military experience is better than no experience" the media propogates the lie that he has more "experience on national security." That contributes to how the people "feel" about McCain's experience and thus proves, AGAIN, the media is not liberally biased. Glad we are on the same page

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He posted one on the last page. The waters are a bit murky, it would seem, but still, I rather doubt that Iran is supporting al-qaeda attacks against the Shia.

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OMG, goober.... that's the best analogy I have read about McCain's qualifications this week... ok with you if I use it elsewhere?

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of course...


Links... never leave home without them...

I never do...

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he had 20 hours over North Viet Nam before being shot down... and received a slew of medals for it... well, according to Colonel Hackworth, many of those medals came because he endured captivity, not because he actually "earned" them in combat...

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Did you read the original post to start this thread?

The OP said.........

Yet take this exchange between MSNBC "liberal" journalists and Ret. General Wesley Clarke who calmly, rational explanation of why McCain actually DOESN'T have serious military experience. Watch as the supposed "liberal media" attempts to defend McCain.

I am just asking if Mika Brzezinski is actually a liberal, or not.

It appears that she does lean pretty hard to the left, but considering she has a brother as an adviser to McCain and another brother as an adviser to Obama, how liberal is she? Obviously her families political leanings may, or may not influence her, but I do find it very interesting that the Brzezinski family has advisers for both candidates.

Looks like her family will benefit, no matter which candidate wins the election and the family will be able to influence the president, whether it's Obama, or McCain.

I do give her kudos for refusing to report on Paris Hilton. That was pretty cool. Something that I would have done if I were a journalist.

What many people fail to realize, is that even liberals will often give a break to someone in power. The liberal media gave many breaks to Bush concerning the Iraq war, which some people misinterpret as right wing bias. It is not right wing bias, it is supporting a president in a time of war. It is not wanting to be called UN-AMERICAN.