I tried too..but Kerry's military service is still controversial......WRT to the camera - today everyone has a cell phone and a digital camera - so it seems quite reasonable for soldiers to have them and to use them to record things with. But back in the early 70's hardly anyone owned a movie camera. I've never heard of any other Vietnam vet that carried one. That doesn't mean they didn't, but it does demonstrate that the behavior was quite "unusual" at the time. Does that mean he's a liar about his service? Not necessarily, but it shows him to be vainglorious. I think a vainglorious person would be more likely to lie about military exploits.

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I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

You put words in my mouth then turn around and accuse me of the same thing. Usually the people that support Obama don't want to talk about anything other then how great he looks in a suit because everything else is just stupid nonsense to them.

Perhaps we are both guilty of pigeon-holing each other.

But what is really strange....if you go back and look........my question was exactly yours........let's keep this on the issues.........and on his flaws because he sure as hell has plenty of them...........

I was asking the same question when I started this thread. Why does Obama feel he has to be the first to bring up race? Shouldn't we be talking about the issues and not about, "Oh by the way, Did you know he was black?"

Now if you can't remember me saying this go back to the beginning of the thread and read what I said, if you still don't believe me.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

I tend to agree about the movie cameras, but I'm not positive either. But I still maintain no one would be filming much of anything, except perhaps a designated combat photographer, when the bullets started flying. I think Pickens knew that when he made that amended challenge.I agree that Kerry (Botox Bob) seems quite vain, and to me he's just another politician and as such a part of the problem rather than the solution. But I can't make the connection between vanity and lying in every case. And in Kerry's case, specifically, he wasn't the only one refuting the charges. The people who served WITH him at the times of the alleged incidents, as well as the Navy, which definitely thought he deserved his medals, make the swift boat vets allegations weak at best.
In this case, I would think any perceived integrity issues with Kerry cannot translate to those who honorably served with him, and THEY say the same thing.

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

In reality or in your mind?

This is a point I wanted to hit on.

There is this myth that Fox News is racist, Rush Limbaugh is racist, Bush is racist, and Republicans are racists.

Who gave everybody this idea?

Divisive candidates like Barrack Obama and the MSM that supports his nonsense....that's who.

We can't afford these so-called "innocent racist comments" because all they do is play a role in dividing this country. They are pretty much part of a plan by the left to paint the right as racists. Katrina was the ultimate example of this falacy.

As Kanya West said, "Bush Doesn't Care About Black People!" Just a big lie and it served as a launching point for the MSM accusations against Bush of racism and fit perfectly into the stereotype the Dems want to foster. Where did Kanya West get this crazy idea? Has he been visiting Obama's "former" church Trinity United?

I guess we can forget about the fact that Bush picked 2 blacks to be his Secretary of State for his entire term of office. But so what, they aren't really black according to the left. They're traitors to the cause. Any black who goes Conservative is labeled a traitor, an Oreo, an Uncle Tom. As a matter of fact Bush hasn't practiced tokenism like the left has, or quotas. He's filled several postions in his administration with qualified minorities......a fact that the MSM wants to avoid if not totally ignore.

This is a stereotype fostered by the left to keep what they think is their black voters on the 'plantation'.

No, most of the racism I'm seeing these days is coming from the left, not from the right.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

Commentators on FOX have had their fair share of inflammatory remarks which have badged them racist. Republicans, and Rush Limbaugh have done plenty to paint them as racists. Yea not all Republicans, but there have been enough to create the stereotype. But you chose to turn a blind eye, being the expert on racism you claim to be. Do some homework, and you will find enough instances which support these stereotypes.

The Katrina catastrophe, rightly or wrongly, gave the impression of racism. Until there is a lot more done to rectify the failures of Katrina, those sentiments will last for generations.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

All of the above has been carefully crafted or rationalized for you. You don't have to think for yourself. Tune into CNN and hear about how racist Fox News is.......

Fox News never said anything like this........"We here at Fox News hate blacks".

But Al Sharpton and Barrack Obama will sure as hell let you know this.

Now you can choose to continue being a racist or you can join the Democrat Party and vote for Obama and cleanse your racist heart and free yourself from White guilt. Liberals, after all, cannot be racist, neither can blacks, according to Liberals.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

Fox News did.

May 25th, 2008 Fox News Contributor Liz Trotta first "confuses" Obama with Osama and then hopes that both of them could be killed. Here's the linkYouTube - Fox News Jokes About Killing Obama

June 6th, Terrorist Fist Jab Heard Round the World-Now fired Faux News anchor E.D. Hill referred to the non-issue of Barack and Michelle's cute love-pound as a "terrorist fist jab." What's even more ridiculous is the subsequent segment that agonizes over what the pound "means." More evidence that the media knows nothing about black people, or the last thirty years in pop-cultural history.

June 13 Fox News-Baby Mama Drama! Faux News segment producers thought it'd be "hip" to refer to Michelle Obama, longtime wife of a senator, mother of Obama's only children as his "Baby Mama." I was stunned, you were stunned. David Duke was all, "whoa, back off their Faux News."

Thats all within three weeks. Do I have to go back to Fox news ridiculous coverage of Rev Wright and the false claim that Obama is Muslim? How often do you hear "Hussein" Obama on Fox news. I bet you can't count them.
So the only thing that defines racism is outwardly saying "I/We hate blacks"

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Talk about a paranoid rant. According to you, we are all lemmings, and you, only you can see clearly.

For me a vote for Obama isn't about cleansing a "racist heart" (if that ain't an oxymoron) it's about poking a finger in the eye of the remaining racists in this country that won't vote for a black man, rubbing the nose of race baiters like yourself—"Is Obama Trying To Start A Race-War In America?"—in the mud of tolerance (if that makes any sense.)

You're the one stoking the flames of racial intolerance, which coming from you just seems crazy.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

You're right. Anyone who confuses the two is someone who should be shunned and not taken seriously: "Osama/Obama"

There are times when I am in stark disagreement with Angry American.

This is not one of those times...

No doubt. Obama needs to reappear on FoxNews w/a turban on his head and Michelle by his side wearing a veil, to emphasize the point that he will be President of all Americans.

And if that's not enough to convince the country of his bigotry-free leadership, at least it'll give Sean Hannity back his 2-inch hardon.

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Why in the world does anyone take this fear and hate mongering crap seriously? Honestly, are these people for real?

Your right to , but of course your wrong for the reason you do. I have listened to enough of Limbaugh to know that there is no basis for the assertion that he is a racist (or hatemonger, homophobe, whatever). Those playing the race card in this election (and have been for the last several elections) are Democrats and extreme Leftists, not Republicans. You are promoting stereotypes that have no foundation, but you are reinforcing the stereotype that Democrat/Liberals use the label of racist to demonize their political enemies rather than engage them in a rational debate on the issues.

Actually the impression of racism during Katrina was manufactured by the Left and promoted by their codependents in the media.

tashi deleks,
M

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"They haven't got Brains, any of them, only grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake, and they don't Think." -- Eeyore, The House At Pooh Corner

Sit like a mountain,
Breathe like the wind,
Mind like the Sky.

When all the Gods are crazy, who do you pray to?

Because in the US, you can make $$$ talking about madrasas and turbans on TV.

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Wrong. Your bias and projections lead you to interpret FOX News as racist.

May 25th, 2008 Fox News Contributor Liz Trotta first "confuses" Obama with Osama and then hopes that both of them could be killed. Here's the linkYouTube - Fox News Jokes About Killing Obama

Just like Ted Kennedy.

She was reporting on the comments of others. FOX, like so many, folded under the accusation of racism rather than try to point out the facts.

That was stupid, but not racist. Michelle had used the phrase "My Baby's Daddy" to introduce Obama at one of his speeches.

Rev. Wright is a real racist (and an anti-Semitic and a conspiracy nut and a Marxist in Christian drag). If McCain had a relationship with someone even remotely like a Rev. Wright it would be front page, first segment news for weeks, months, if not the whole election. FOX News never claimed that Obama is a Muslim. They reported on the question in political circles and the silliness of the assertion, but FOX correctly reported that Obama himself claims to be a Christian. FOX News has reported on the controversy of using Obama's middle name "Hussein," because it was news.

I would rather get my news from FOX, then from MediaMatters or Moveon.org.

tashi deleks,

M

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"They haven't got Brains, any of them, only grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake, and they don't Think." -- Eeyore, The House At Pooh Corner

Sit like a mountain,
Breathe like the wind,
Mind like the Sky.

When all the Gods are crazy, who do you pray to?