When Ted Kennedy then hopes that Obama should be killed by "confusing" the two, you may have a point.
1. Can you clarify what you mean by "racist." I have an idea of what it means, but I have a feeling that much of this discussion has to due with the way those on the right have raised the bar for "racism" to a ridiculous level. Essentially you have to don a KKK outfit and advocate for the return to Jim Crow segregation and lynchiing in order to be labelled a "racist" by the right. Oddly enough, the OTHER way you get labelled a racist is if you're a civil rights activist who calls out racism, somehow that's called "race baiting." Though no one can explain exactly why. Who is being baited? How does that baiting translate into tension. Do civil rigths activists manufacture these things. If so, can you point to some examples.

2. I have tons and tons of evidence of Limbaugh racism. I'll let him hang himself with his own words. Intense. Not only is he factually innacurate, we had slavery for three centuries if you include the colonial period. But he's actually saying that the death of nearly a million Africans in the middle passage, the systemic rape of black women and the total dehumanization of black people wasn't "so bad" because it economically "built the South."

Here's Limbaugh talking about the potential to intervene in Darfur. He also takes the opportunity to denigrate Nelson Mandela and claim that sanctioning Apartheid in South Africa was a "plot" by Democrats to appeal to black voters, rather than the right thing to do.
A fun sampler of Limbaugh quotes.
If this is NOT race baiting/racism..what is?

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

It's irresponsible journalism then. She never explained what she meant, she never had any "expert" talking about the terrorist fist jab. She just said it and never substantiated or qualified it. And considering Fox news continued repitition of the lie that Obama was "raised Muslim" they don't get the benefit of the doubt from me.
Can you ever imagine Fox News referring to Cindy McCain, Hillary Clinton or Nancy Reagan as anyone's "Baby Mama"? Of course you can't because we all know that phrase is a uniquely African American slang. Which I have no problem with, except that the MEANING of the word is a woman with whom you have kids, but no other kind of relationship. Out of pure respect you don't refer to the wife of a senator and a Presidential candidate in that way. I might also add that all of us, regardless of our race, are allowed to call our dear loved one things, in certain contexts, that are innapropriate or offensive in another context. I have seen my Italian friend call his brother a "dirty wop" during a heated moment playing cards. Does that mean I can call him a "dirty wop?" Does that mean Fox news can refer to italian's as "dirty wops."?

I'm not sure, exactly, how you can equate Moveon and Media Matters. The former is a political action group, the later is an independent media fact checking organisation. But I can imagine that someone who enjoys Fox propaganda would actually despise media matters since they so often call out Fox. The only thing you can say about media matters is that you perceive them as liberal. You can't actually demonstrate that their criticisms of Fox and other corporate media are innacurate.
How is Rev. Wright a racist. Can you please DEFINE racist for me? I'd love to hear it. And there's nothing anti-Christian about a marxist political philosophy.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Just thought I'd post this video, which you may have not seen.
YouTube - FOX Lies!! Irresponsible Media! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Since you can't seem to think for yourself, I'll give you some links to help you.

The Racism Of Fox News

FOX News Racism

Black College Students Hate Fox News Racism

Michelle Obama Sexism/Racism Watch (Fox News edition)

Bigotshtick: Rush Limbaugh on Indians

Limbaugh calls Native Americans "injuns" — again

Rush Limbaugh Attacks Black Katrina victims and praises Whites as the Floods hit.

Racist Limbaugh Calls Mayor Villaraigosa a “Shoe Shine Boy!”

Lott, Reagan and Republican Racism

Republican Racism

Gimme Yo Change Yard Sign

Stick a Pin in It

The Blight That Is Still With Us

Now I'm not saying these give proof of offending acts of racism, but these are observations in which individuals feel racially offended. Take it as you will, perception 'is' reality, either right or wrong.

Obama ain't gonna start no race war, that's just silly, and paranoid. But toying with such notions is a dangerous proposal, much like McCain's top advisor suggesting another terrorist attack would be good for the McCain candidacy.

I just don't buy it that you don't know why these racial stereotypes exist, unless of course you have lied to me about your own condition.

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-Thomas Jefferson

Hello CMSux,

Considering what you have said about Rush I am inclined to not believe your truthfulness.

To judge a person on the color of their skin, to act or set policy either positively or negatively only on skin color. Racial quotas and Jim Crow are based on racist beliefs -- the first a positive benefit, the second a negative -- both based on a negative view of African-Americans. My Oxford University Press Dictionary defines Racism as: 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.

Rev. Wright has expressed his belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. His whole diatribe about his alleged differences in how blacks and whites learn is racist. And he has expressed his antagonism towards other races -- specifically towards whites. Whites creating AIDS to kill off blacks is based on a conspiracy lie that is inherently racist.

When Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson play their games they are engaged in "race baiting" and are expressing their own racism. When Sharpton (who I actually think is very likable when he is not engaging in the race baiting and is very funny) and other civil rights leaders make the claim that African-Americans cannot be racists, because they lack the power -- they are expressing racism.

Here is one.

Tawana Brawley controversy
For more details on this topic, see Tawana Brawley
On November 28, 1987, Tawana Brawley, a 15-year-old black girl, was found smeared with feces, lying in a garbage bag, her clothing torn and burned and with various slurs and epithets written on her body in charcoal. Brawley claimed she had been assaulted and raped by six white men, some of them police officers, in the village of Wappingers Falls, New York.

Attorneys Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason joined Sharpton in support of Brawley. A grand jury was convened; after seven months of examining police and medical records, the jury determined that Brawley had fabricated her story.
Al Sharpton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have listened to Rush for years and I have to say I have never heard him say anything like what you quote above. Do you have an audio link where I can hear Rush say the above in the full context. Or is this something off MediaMatters that has been taken far far out of context?

A month or so ago History Channel did a show The History of the Joke. One of the segments was on what is not appropriate to joke about and they interviewed several different comedians. Race, of course, came up. Some won't touch it while others were willing. One guy, who happened to be white, was willing to tell jokes about Black culture and he has found that the only ones who are uncomfortable about his jokes were white liberals, not African-Americans.

And probably something you made up or was taken way way out of context.

That is obviously not in its full context and what specifically did Rush say that was racist? Also the CALLER brought up Mandela (who was bankrolled by communists) and South Africa -- not Rush. It has become a standard practice of Democrats to issue token rhetoric that is designed to (they hope) give a wink to African-American feelings of injustice.

Again give me a audio link in full context with Rush saying that. Otherwise I'll conclude you are just making this stuff up.

Again present an audio link. More likely it is you without a sense of humor, suffering from white guilt, and deeply influenced by political correctness.

I hate racists and racism and do not accept it from anyone.

tashi deleks,

M

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"They haven't got Brains, any of them, only grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake, and they don't Think." -- Eeyore, The House At Pooh Corner

Sit like a mountain,
Breathe like the wind,
Mind like the Sky.

When all the Gods are crazy, who do you pray to?

Hello CMSux,

She was clear enough for me to understand her. Yet, due to some who were too dense, the next day she clarified the report. FOX News has not engaged in repeating the false claim that Obama was raised Muslim on their news shows. I watch the news, not the talking head opinion shows.

Stupid is stupid. Stupid does not equal racist.

R i g h t. You can believe that if you want. MediaMatters takes things so far out of context only those with an inherent bias can accept it as an independent media fact checking org.

When MediaMatters has a story about something I have witnessed or heard and it is presented so far out of context that its original meaning is lost I can say that the reporting of MediaMatters is inaccurate. Pew has done several polls of FOX viewers and the majority of them define themselves moderate. Many also define themselves as liberal. You can push your propaganda all you want, but don't expect everyone to buy the silliness.

I already have.

I already have.

Oh yea, r i g h t. Except for that whole "opium of the masses" atheist foundation, its materialistic class conflict thing, its demand of collective salvation.

And posted next.

I have seen it. You claim FOX lies and yet your own evidence proves that FOX did not lie. The taking out of context does not work with Wright, since the more context you have and the more you see of Wright, the more you realize that Wright is a racist, anti-Semitic, conspiracy nut. I cannot help you if you do not consider Rev. Wright's anti-American conspiracy filled rhetoric problematic.
American Thinker: Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
American Thinker: Obama, Black Liberation Theology and Karl Marx
American Thinker: Obama, Black Liberation Theology and Antisemitism

Townhall.com::Blog
Townhall.com::Blog

If you want to believe that Barack Obama's spiritual mentor of nearly twenty years is such a nice guy that is your choice. I believe he is a racist, anti-Semitic, conspiracy nut, and a Marxist in Christian drag.

tashi deleks,

M

PS. Fighting racism wherever I see it.

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"They haven't got Brains, any of them, only grey fluff that's blown into their heads by mistake, and they don't Think." -- Eeyore, The House At Pooh Corner

Sit like a mountain,
Breathe like the wind,
Mind like the Sky.

When all the Gods are crazy, who do you pray to?

Reverend Wright is an old-fashioned guy with old-time beliefs, nowhere near as bad as Pat Robertson, James Dobson, and the loons on the right. These people are taken way too seriously by some people. And it's too bad too, because it's the superstitious and biggoted crowds on the left and right who buy into it.

Wright doesn't really sound all that different from MLK, and it's because they came out of the same era, sharing the same struggles.

I want to make a list of all the crazy and famous preachers in America and visit those churches. It sounds like it would be one hell of an entertaining Sunday. And it's free, too! Hatemongering, every Sunday in America, and then? We're makin' waffles!

I have no idea how that relates to anything I said in the post you quoted.My turn.
In your mind or in reality?I don't see where any of that relates to the charge that Obama is trying to ignite a race war. It's more like connecting him to a few unrelated incidents which Obama had nothing to do with. That includes implying he supported what Wright said. He condemned Wrights comments and has not been quoted as saying the same things to my knowledge.
I've been to a couple of Baptist churches where the preachers were so "fire and brimstone" in their words it was almost scary, and I don't think ANYONE in the congregation agreed with him.
If the MSM is indeed fostering racism, they are doing it without regard to political affiliation, IMO. Once they smell blood in the water they will jump on it, and they don't much care WHICH side it comes from.
And another point. Where did you SEE Wright's tirades repeated a hundred times? The MSM, that's where. If they were on Obama's side they wouldn't have done that, would they?

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

Personally I think the media would be able to fix blame for another attack on Bush or McCain no matter what, so I think Black was wrong. I think the MSM can sell ice to an Eskimo. They are waiting to be able to start pointing fingers if we do have another attack even though the Dems have been busy protecting and coddling terrorists and making it easier for it to happen again.

I suppose you think Democrats aren't constantly licking their chops over the sinking Dow, rising gas prices, the housing crunch, or anything bad they can report in the news.

Let's get real now. Democrats have been caught several times talking aloud about how a bad economy is good for them and they've been living off of any bad news in Iraq.


Now to get back to the original topic.......

I said the Mainstream Media and Democrats were responsible for the claims of racism being thrown unfairly at Republicans and then you provide evidence of my assertions.

Yes, Obama isn't going to start a race war by himself.

If anything happens to him, guess what will happen in LA, Chicago, Atlanta.......

If he loses the election, guess what possibly may happen in LA, Chicago, Atlanta......

If anyone dares to criticize him the automatic assumption from the left will be "It's Just Because He's Black and They're Racists!!!"

That is the scenerio Obama was setting up with his "Oh, by the way did you know he was black" comment. He is simply trying to sow up his African-American voter base and trying to do it in a sneaky fashion so's not to offend whites.

He's come a long way from being labeled as a Unauthentic Black....He's never been down for the struggle......he doesn't have slave blood......Bill Clinton has gone to bed with more sisters then Barrack Obama.....


All of these accusations have been thrown at him by.........Democrats.

Well he's got his street credit now.

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, mud. That's about all I can say.

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This land was made for you and me
-Woody Guthrie

How would you know it's only 2 inches?

Have you been peeking?

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It's hard to stay mad at someone who makes you laugh - Jay Leno

Well if blacks are waiting 8-10 hours in line to vote, and get told they aren't eligible to vote, we might have a problem on our hands. So any ideas to disenfranchise black voters in this election better be shelved. If there are enough black voters who feel they've been wronged in this election, there will be hell to pay.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

If they have their ducks in a row, it shouldn't be a problem.

Then again, all of those "disenfranchised" whines fall, largely, on deaf ears...

As a Rush listener you know that in order to get audio clips of the guy you have to pay his website fee. I'm also curious under what context those comments on slavery would be acceptable. In what context is it possibly funny? But I'm not paying for Rush and I doubt if you are a premium member we'd be able to find those quotes. However, all you have to do is type in Rush Limbaugh, racism and quotes on google and a number of sites come up with very similar kinds of quotes.Jim Crow was based on the notion that racial segregation was necessary to protect the purity of the white race, to ensure that only whites wielded political and economic power and became an effective rallying cry for southern Democrats for decades. How exactly is this at all similar to "racial quotas." You also are wrong about the premise of Affirmative Action. It assumes there are qualified applicants/students of all races, but it also acknowledges that racism exists and, most importantly, there are advantages that whites receive in terms of social connections (this is particularly the case for business) that racial minorities and women do not receive. Remember, the greatest benefeciaries of Affirmative Action are white women.

Actually you are wrong about Wright and not understanding a key distinction he makes between people and governments. Wright's contention is ALWAYS that the U.S. government has engaged in racism, and frankly, the record speaks for itself doesn't it. The mission of the government for centuries was to ensure white supremacy can you deny this?

As far as HIV-AIDS conspiracies go. Wright is very off base. But considering the long history of the US government's experimentation on African Americans I don't blame him. People are only aware of the Tuskegee experiment because it was the most publicized. There's a tragically extensive history of this kind of thing happening.
Rolling your eyes and repeating what you said doesn't count as a response. Um I'm not white, but...OK.
Then we're not talking about the same thing. The talking head shows are what they claim as "news programs."

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Well, some people believe that black skin is specific to black people. Are they racist?