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| View Poll Results: Reasons why, you, as a conservative dislike John McCain | |||
| Campaign Finance Reform |
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11 | 52.38% |
| Opposition to the Tax cuts |
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11 | 52.38% |
| Voting for federal funding for Stem Cell Research |
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6 | 28.57% |
| Opposition to federa ban on gay marriage |
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8 | 38.10% |
| Beief in existance of Global Warming/other environmental issues |
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11 | 52.38% |
| Part of the gang of 14/refusing to break fillibusters on judges |
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8 | 38.10% |
| Comments about reigious leaders in 2000 |
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4 | 19.05% |
| Race with George Bush in 2000 |
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3 | 14.29% |
| Possible ticket/consideration of ticket with John Kerry in 2004 |
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9 | 42.86% |
| Poor rating from NRA (Though that is generally over free speech issues) |
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5 | 23.81% |
| Opposition to Waterboarding and other tough interrogation methods |
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8 | 38.10% |
| Opposition to Guantanamo Bay/indefinate detention |
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11 | 52.38% |
| Opposition to rendition |
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5 | 23.81% |
| Opposition to the Iraq war policy run by Rummsfeld for 4 years and problems with Rummy in general |
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2 | 9.52% |
| Sacrificing principle for Bi-partisanship (like with Kennedy and Feingold etc) |
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11 | 52.38% |
| Refusal to secure the border/comprehensive reform, no additional CBP agents and or national guard |
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16 | 76.19% |
| Refusal to support building a fence at the border |
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12 | 57.14% |
| Refusal to support building a Wall at the border |
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10 | 47.62% |
| Wanting a path to citizenship |
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11 | 52.38% |
| Not wanting to see Roe VS Wade overturned |
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6 | 28.57% |
| Giving HC rights and access to civillian courts for terrorists |
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11 | 52.38% |
| The defense of the high seas act |
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10 | 47.62% |
| His questionnable personal behavior (Defferals/affairs/getting into fights/divorce/temper) etc |
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2 | 9.52% |
| Ties to lobbyists |
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4 | 19.05% |
| His age (not sure that this has been raised by too many conservatives though) |
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2 | 9.52% |
| Flip flopping and pandering (Immigration, interrogation, religious right etc). |
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7 | 33.33% |
| Generally not conservative enough for me, but nothing specific |
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5 | 23.81% |
| I am a conservative, and support John McCain and think he is conservative enough |
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2 | 9.52% |
| Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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For conservatives: Why do you dislike John McCain?
Well after a string of nonsensical stuff from McCain since he has won the votes needed for the nomination and to prioritise, what is the reason you don't like him?
Its a multi-select poll, so check whatever box you have issues with him on and prioritise it to some extent i guess...but not so much you see as the"most" important, but what you see as important. Now i have thought long and hard over certain issues and have come up with as many of the reasons i can think of, but if i have forgotten any please also select the other option and list it below explainning. There are a lot of options so please bear with me whil the poll is set up. ![]() Thanks. |
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
Excuse any typing errors, sorry but i won't be abe to edit them out.
I have made it a pubic options poll btw incase it gets stacked by idiots, it'll still be possible to calculate who, as a real conservative, has what specific gripes with him. Get voting! |
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
Wow there sure are a lot of reasons to dislike him! And some of them are pretty wacky! Like his opposition to torture!?! Meanwhile he doesn't really oppose torture. He voted against the ban on torture, didn't he....So all you torture lovers out there can rest easy. McCain is pro-torture, even after having been tortured himself.
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
Well i did leave an option for pandering and flip flopping, but where did i mention torture anywhere?
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
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With the option for the 2000 race i would wanna add in, his general hunderance of Bush since. (100 charachter limit on poll options). |
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
Given that you'd be hard pressed to call Bush a "conservative", I would think that hindering Bush would be more of a plus in conservative circles than a minus.
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
How is he a thorn? The biggest grip I can see from most is that he doesn't adopt the party platform as his own across the board. And it seems to me that the more a candidate is willing to break with Bush the better their chances of winning at this point.
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
I was waiting until you'd get in! Btw seeing as you hate liberal poicies more than most and see yourself as a conservative i guess you' be voting in this then?
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
It seems to me that anyone on the federal level that is not addressing 4 issues is really either missing the boat, or trying to avoid dealing with the reality of the USA, and a nation in general;
1) making sure all in the nation have food 2) making sure all in the nation have shelter 3) making sure all in the nation have medical care 4) making sure all in the nation have education Let's face it, those are not sexy topics, but they are really the 4 basics. We can overlook a military to defend ourselves from invasion, and a legal system, since although they are not perfect, the USA has addressed them... and I don't want people to get off of doing military or legal reform to fine tune those two items as a way to avoid dealing with the 4 items above we need a great deal of work on. I don't see how McCain addresses any of the 4 items above. And if he ever mentions them, he mentions some old useless slogans with regards to them. I don't see the 4 areas above becoming signifigantly better with McCain as a president. Cheers! |
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As for being a thorn, well if a candidate had one or two reasons out of that list, maybe a handful, even scraping double digits is not that bad, with this guy, i can name 30 reasons off the top of my head. He's not a conservative. |
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Re: For conservatives: Why do you disike John McCain?
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I could go through and find things I dislike about McCain, but I'm not really a line-toting "conservative", so I don't want to throw off your poll.
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