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More blatant lies out of Obama campaign....
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Funny how Obama site has removed all his quotes about how the surge was going to fail. Now one of the most anti war liberals as the balls to credit the troops for the surge success like he was in support of it to start with. He said the surge was going to be a failure thus the troops were not ready or able to make it be successful then runs along behind the surge success bandwagon hoping to hop on. Obama is not only a fool but a liar. Last edited by Lost Soul; 07-16-2008 at 08:01 AM. |
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He still maintains the surge did fail which is entirely correct. The surge failed to accomplish its objective. Why the fuck do people keep saying it succeeded when the goal of said surge was to get the Iraqis to make political progress? If it succeeded the war would be over. Instead you have the troops baby sitting these Iraqis while they temporarily don't kill each other. The dynamics are exactly the same as before and nothing has changed. Obama saw right through it and he was right. |
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Re: More blatant lies out of Obama campaign....
Read it and weep Danny boy
The New Reality in Iraq - WSJ.com
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I would edit or some mod will give points for the "boy" comment. I am sure Danny has reported it already. |
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You're absolutely RIGHT--Lost Soul. Now they're stating that the political goals haven't been met! Yet oil revenue sharing is being distributed amoung all factions. It's still not on paper, but it is being shared. There is government reconcillation between Sunni's, Shiete's & Kurds--that's one of the reasons that violence is down too.
What is really a crack-up. Is that our U.S. government takes years of "in-fighting" to come up with a new bill, yet they, including Obama expects the Iraqi government to work at the speed of light, after a brutal 30 year dictatorship. Right now, Democrats in congress are blocking the bill that President Bush lifted on off shore oil drilling. This while our economy is in the tank, our financial markets are in the tank, inflation on the rise & it's all about the price of gasoline. Our government can't even agree on that! Just wait--It won't be long before Obama & democrats claim they were responsible for the surge working! Last edited by Oreo; 07-16-2008 at 09:17 AM. |
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You better believe the republicans are going to use the votes and speeches given by the dems as to why we are paying over 4 bucks a gallon while democrats control both houses yet cont to block efforts to drill. There was an article released yesterday saying that the companies who drill for oil saying if the democrats would stop blocking them they could have the first barrels to market in 12 to 18 months not the democrat lie of 10 years. |
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We all want green-energy & that too will take decades to get on-line. Even if there right & it takes 10 years, we will still have need for some oil, 10 to 150 years from now. Their hypocrocisy--is that they call for energy independance, but sit on their ASS'S & do absolutely nothing to get there. Yet, they expect the Iraqi's to have political consolation YESTERDAY! |
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Now he's back to withdrawing troops within his arbitrary 16 month time frame. Last week he was going to the "smart" thing & go to Iraq & meet with commanders on the ground before making a decision on withdrawel. Obama is all over the map on this one. A s far as people still stating the surge hasn't worked. They are partisan--always looking to defend their parties stance, no matter how wrong they are. |
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Ah, the dawn of a new morning brings with it Lost Soul starting yet another "Obama is the most evil creation ever borne to humankind" thread... Well, he's had 8 years to learn from the best at it... |
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Re: More blatant lies out of Obama campaign....
Yes it's such a great success that we may be able to move some of the troops out, if things go well in the future.
The mere fact that Iraq still requires the presence of 140,000 US troops after 5 years of violent struggle, betrays any argument of success. Here's a big clue, when you don't achieve your original stated goals, that's called failure. Here's another big clue, the last time the war was "going so well", was in 2004 (an election year too, what are the odds of that?), Petraeus wrote an OP-ED piece for the Washington Post about how well things were going, about how the Iraqi army was almost ready to take over from the US about how victory was just around the corner. The pig gets doused with perfume in an election year.
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