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Like I said, realizing it comes with the territory would be his best move........next?
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But that's not what Obama said. He rather clearly denounced the makers of the statement. That goes beyond "Don't you have anything better to do."
The only two things that could even be construed as denouncing the statement-makers would be:

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What happened was that the conservative press—Fox News and the National Review and columnists of every ilk—went fairly deliberately at her in a pretty systematic way...and treated her as the candidate in a way that you just rarely see the Democrats try to do against Republicans.
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If you start being subjected to rants by Sean Hannity and the like, day in day out, that'll drive up your negatives.
If those are your idea of denunciations or attacks on the attackers, your skin may be thinner than Obama's.
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I think the saddest part about this whole debacle is that no one is even bothering to recognize the most important quote of the interview:

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"I would never have my campaign engage in a concerted effort to make Cindy McCain an issue, and I would not expect the Democratic National Committee or people who were allied with me to do it."
Have you ever Googled Cindy McCain, or examined her record, specifically 1989 to 1994? I would suggest avoiding it, not because it's incriminating or embarrassing, but because it's absolutely pathetic to attack someone's wife.
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It's politics and it's nothing new.
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Hannity as put up the challenge to Obama to debate him. Obama wants to talk big yet when called on it, will he be the man he claims to be? So far no one from the Obama camp or Obama himself has taken Hannity up.

So why is Obama scared to debate Hannity if Hannity is just another talking head. If Obama is so skilled of a politician he should be able to mop the floor with Hannity arse. I don't see it happening but Hannity has thrown down the gauntlet. Lets see if Obama is the man he claims to be and ride up on his high horse to defend his wife's honor by smacking Hannity upside his big fat head.
screw the debate , I say cage match...tables chairs, the whole mogilla....
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I think the saddest part about this whole debacle is that no one is even bothering to recognize the most important quote of the interview:



Have you ever Googled Cindy McCain, or examined her record, specifically 1989 to 1994? I would suggest avoiding it, not because it's incriminating or embarrassing, but because it's absolutely pathetic to attack someone's wife.
how about their bother?
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Blaming media heads for things they say is a wimp out? Interesting. Remember that next time you chastise the liberal media for their flattery of the Democrat of the week.

On a side note, the reason why Hannity was targeted is because he essentially talks about Michelle Obama every single day. I listen to him constantly and I'm starting to wonder if his apparent dislike of Obama is only rooted in his obvious hatred of Obama's wife.
blaming them for fair game is.

IF hannity does beat on her constantly, thats overkill and in no way condone it.
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The "family values" that Bush instilled into his daughters showed up in criminal behavior. It appears that Bush rhetoric rang hollow.
sooo you have never had a drink under age? If so your parents are not very good parents then are they and have no family values? Ipso, if my daughter which I know she did as a lark, has a drink under age, this means I am a lousy father? I see......dude ....
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If someone insults your wife, and you say, "Don't you have anything better to do than insult my wife," would you be defending your wife, or attacking the person who made the insult? It's pure semantics to suggest that there is much difference between defending one's wife against attacks and denouncing the individual who made the actual attack.
you have not established the "insult"......hannity speaking out on topic re: "shes a harridan" is one thing and not right, but to say he thinks based on her statements she hates amercia is another, I don't think she does, BUT from where I sit I think she has issues, for sure. And hannity is free to say so.
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screw the debate , I say cage match...tables chairs, the whole mogilla....
Ladder match.

Those are fucking exciting to watch. I still remember Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon. That was epic.
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you have not established the "insult"......hannity speaking out on topic re: "shes a harridan" is one thing and not right, but to say he thinks based on her statements she hates amercia is another, I don't think she does, BUT from where I sit I think she has issues, for sure. And hannity is free to say so.
But you know how it got played, right?

I'm the poster boy for griping and complaining about America, but that's because I want her to be glorious again and to spread it's goodness instead of living on fear.

Why can't you have issues with the country you love? Maybe it's just that Bush helped dumb-down the culture to a degree where people can no longer hold two opposing views in their head at the same time without going crazy.

I have "issues" with John McCain, but I like the guy.

I have tons of issues with the way the Toronto Blue Jays are sucking ass this year, but I wouldn't feel that way if I didn't love them so damn much.

What Hannity and Limbaugh and O'Reilly and that gang do is deflect, take shit out of context, and then run down the field with it. They have a right to the first Amendment, but other people have the right to smack them down when they start behaving like children instead of grown-ups.

America isn't a country that's too far to the right or too far to the left, but the far-right has completely hijacked the floor in recent years, and personally I wish McCain and Obama would continue to smack these guys down. They don't engage or add to the conversation; it's all about spreading fear with those types, and then cashing in on big ratings because they're prone to say foolish things.
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you have not established the "insult"......hannity speaking out on topic re: "shes a harridan" is one thing and not right, but to say he thinks based on her statements she hates amercia is another, I don't think she does, BUT from where I sit I think she has issues, for sure. And hannity is free to say so.
I'm not really sure what you would describe as an "insult." What Hannity does is say things like, "The man's wife wrote her thesis about how she hates white people," and "The woman, who went to Princeton and Harvard Law, has no right to say that America is 'downright mean.'" He constantly emphasizes, almost always ignoring the context, any quote that his mundane audience will accept as evidence that she hates America. I'm not so sure it's as insulting to Michelle Obama as it is to his listeners. However, if you ever listen to the people who call into his show, you can see that they are the kind of folks that eat that shit up.

Hannity can say whatever he wants. I completely agree with that. But Barack Obama has every right to say something to the effect of, "Pick on me, not my wife." It's not as though Obama is planning to make an Alien and Sedition Act-type law that forbids citizens from demeaning his wife. He's just telling people that he doesn't like it when people talk shit about his wife.

I'm just glad the Frankens and Maddows and Olbermanns and Matthewses haven't opened up the can of worms that is Cindy McCain's background. They have every right to, I suppose, but it'll be a sad day if they ever do.
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The only two things that could even be construed as denouncing the statement-makers would be:



and



If those are your idea of denunciations or attacks on the attackers, your skin may be thinner than Obama's.
I was referring to this:

I would never have my campaign engage in a concerted effort to make Cindy McCain an issue, and I would not expect the Democratic National Committee or people who were allied with me to do it. Because essentially, spouses are civilians.

Saying that, we, the democrats, are better than you, the republicans.
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Just a little more proof of Obama's elitist attitude.

You don't think Hillary took any heat during the Bill years, do you? Obama's message is clear..........I'm not a uniter, that is just part of my campaign rhetoric.
So lemme get this straight, the right wing attacks Hillary, so now that gives them the right to attack Obama's wife too?
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I didn't care at all about what his daughters did; it's that the same crowd that shoves their apparent "Moral Values" at you are the same side that hires male escorts and tries to pick up dudes in bathrooms and does crystal meth......or cocaine in their past, and they try to act like they're the squeaky clean party. And their base buys into it. At least Clinton wasn't a hypocrit about it and lived up to his playboy image. And he could have gone after somebody really hot, but didn't. He chose a passed-over girl, which is kinda sweet.
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Probably because Obama doesn't want to give Sean Hannity the recognition that no one, other than Sean Hannity, feels he deserves. If Obama met to "debate" Sean Hannity, he'd be challenged by every talking-head in the country. Ingraham, Coulter, Limbaugh, Savage, Levin, they'd all want a piece.

It would be like Rachel Maddow challenging John McCain to a debate. You know why she doesn't? Because she's not so arrogant (and ridiculously foolish) as to assume that presidential contenders don't have anything better to do than debate with radio and television talk show hosts.

Anyone who thinks Obama should debate Sean Hannity is a M-O-R-O-N.

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Only you would construe a quote like this:



...as some kind of challenge for someone to say it to his face. Anyone with an ounce of political intelligence in their body would know that it would be completely idioitic for Obama to go on Hannity's show to discuss his wife. What happens after that? Marc Levin says Obama's wife is a whore and challenges Obama to go on his show. Is Obama a wuss because he doesn't do that, as well? What about when Savage calls her a c***. Does Obama have to go on Savage to explain why that's not the case.

While I would enjoy the spectacle of Obama and Michelle artfully explaining their positions to Sean Hannity, face-to-face, considering Obama a wuss for not going on Hannity, after Hannity has repeatedly tried to make a mockery of Obama's wife, would be like Al Franken calling Cindy McCain a bitch, John McCain denouncing Al Franken for the comment, and then calling John McCain a wuss because he wouldn't go on Air America to explain why his wife isn't actually a bitch.

Furthermore, if Obama were to go on Hannity, I have no doubt in my mind you all would label it another "flip-flop" and act as though this appearance is evidence that the man is not fit to be president.
"Why look who it is in the crowd folks, seems Bararck Obama has taken up my challenge to debate him on whether his wife is a 'fair weather friend' to the US, and speaking of fair weather, we'll have some of that right after these commercials, when I, Al Roker, return with the Today Show"
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Re: Obama's Hope and Change: Hannity Sucks

Look, you have to realize that Barrack is special, his wife is off limits , and all the rules have changed. Forget about the last century in politics,
BO's is on the scene and has a brand new rulebook!
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