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Obama's Hope and Change: Hannity Sucks

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SENATOR OBAMA: It's infuriating, but it's not surprising, because let's face it: What happened was that the conservative press—Fox News and the National Review and columnists of every ilk—went fairly deliberately at her in a pretty systematic way...and treated her as the candidate in a way that you just rarely see the Democrats try to do against Republicans. And I've said this before: I would never have my campaign engage in a concerted effort to make Cindy McCain an issue, and I would not expect the Democratic National Committee or people who were allied with me to do it. Because essentially, spouses are civilians. They didn't sign up for this. They're supporting their spouse. So it took a toll. If you start being subjected to rants by Sean Hannity and the like, day in day out, that'll drive up your negatives.
Maybe hope and change was just for the primaries. Now its time for typical partisan politics. Call your opponents opinions "rants". Apparently Obamas wife didnt sign up to be challenged, and they are supposed to be able to go campaign and make political statements, but not have their speeches commented on. Is Obama really acting Presidential?

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Re: Obama's Hope and Change: Hannity Sucks

Just a little more proof of Obama's elitist attitude.

You don't think Hillary took any heat during the Bill years, do you? Obama's message is clear..........I'm not a uniter, that is just part of my campaign rhetoric.
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I love how he tries to say democrats dont do it against republicans. How many times have they called McCains wife a trophy wife? And of course no one ever went after the Bush's daughters...No one goes after Laura Bush because she doesnt campaign or make speeches or political comments. I cant wait for Obama to become president just so he can finally understand its not like its portrayed on tv.
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I know. How dare Obama defend his wife against attacks? What a dick! This is obviously evidence that Obama is just another politician and his message of hope and change are pure rhetoric.
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I love how he tries to say democrats dont do it against republicans. How many times have they called McCains wife a trophy wife? And of course no one ever went after the Bush's daughters...No one goes after Laura Bush because she doesnt campaign or make speeches or political comments. I cant wait for Obama to become president just so he can finally understand its not like its portrayed on tv.
Emphasis mine of course.

Spouses, daughters, cousins, and whatever are fair game if those people decided to get involved in the political process. Obama's wife started getting into the campaign trail and so she was attacked. I haven't seen Cindy McCain get involved in the campaign so far so I don't think it's fair to attack her.

Bush' daughters were an exception. Early in Dubya's presidential run he wouldn't stop talking about family values and morality then his daughters got busted for having fake I.D.'s, getting drunk, and being rowdy.
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Emphasis mine of course.

Spouses, daughters, cousins, and whatever are fair game if those people decided to get involved in the political process. Obama's wife started getting into the campaign trail and so she was attacked. I haven't seen Cindy McCain get involved in the campaign so far so I don't think it's fair to attack her.

Bush' daughters were an exception. Early in Dubya's presidential run he wouldn't stop talking about family values and morality then his daughters got busted for having fake I.D.'s, getting drunk, and being rowdy.
And what did Bush say about his daughters actions?
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I know. How dare Obama defend his wife against attacks? What a dick! This is obviously evidence that Obama is just another politician and his message of hope and change are pure rhetoric.
Has anyone said he cant defend his wife? No. We said he cant be hypocritical and claim his wife is off limits when she makes politicial statements. He should defend her statements, not attempt to stifle criticism.
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I know. How dare Obama defend his wife against attacks? What a dick! This is obviously evidence that Obama is just another politician and his message of hope and change are pure rhetoric.
Not just a dick, but on out of touch with reality dick. If he has it all on the ball, he should know such criticizms come with the territory, always have, always will.

Hope and change. Hope in one hand and hold the change from your pocket in the other. There you go! That is the only real hope and change you'll ever see out of our federal govt, Obama or no Obama.
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Maybe hope and change was just for the primaries. Now its time for typical partisan politics. Call your opponents opinions "rants". Apparently Obamas wife didnt sign up to be challenged, and they are supposed to be able to go campaign and make political statements, but not have their speeches commented on. Is Obama really acting Presidential?

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How is Hannity an "opponent"? And, by the way, like any other pundit, he's a professional ranter.
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Re: Obama's Hope and Change: Hannity Sucks

well it appears to me that after very much internal polling, she like Teresa Kerry has probably been found to be a unsympathetic figure and persona non grata.

I am NOT arguing whether what she has said thus far is right or wrong, I am just saying that it appears they feel that considering she is prone to be forceful, speak off the cuff ( ala ripping Bills eyes out) and , uhm lets say very assertive, they feel she will only create turmoil sooner or later and will now closet her as the family matriarchal type. Of course this is averse to her persona, she as a professional woman who works etc. but hey they are entitled to make the moves necessary and is politics.

I will say though laying this on hannity or anyone in the media is a non starter and a wimp out. I don’t like that kind of namby pamby self aggrandizement....ala victimization and I am not alone, several of my lib buddies here at work thought it was a cop out to cast it that way and actually counter productive.
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And what did Bush say about his daughters actions?
I don't remember. They've been arrested so many times for their criminal actions that it's hard to keep track.
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Re: Obama's Hope and Change: Hannity Sucks

You know, early on, I liked Obama. I started to buy into the whole "change" thing. He was young, which I liked. He was a dynamic, brilliant speaker. For the first time in a long time, I actually started to consider the very real possibility that I may end up voting for a Democrat.

Unfortunately, everything he said, regardless of how well he said it, was nothing new. He's just another Democrat, but with less gray hair and a better suit.

An Obama Presidency will be catastrophic to this country...
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I don't remember. They've been arrested so many times for their criminal actions that it's hard to keep track.
Really?

How many times, specifically, have they both been arrested for criminal behavior?
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Really?

How many times, specifically, have they both been arrested for criminal behavior?
It's hard to keep track.
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I don't remember. They've been arrested so many times for their criminal actions that it's hard to keep track.
How many times? And how Bush reacted speaks to his credibility on family values. Did he give them a pass? That is the only thing that matters in regards to someones candidacy. The actions of the daughters are private and irrelavant. His position on it are relavant.
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