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Re: Pelosi a Total Failure

Here's Pelosi exposing her true colors:

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"So, on the basis of that, count me among the 70-some percent," she continued. "But that is one measure. The other measure that I'm more interested in is the one that talks about what is their view of Democrats. And the generic, who do you prefer to run the country on all of these issues? We're in double digits in any poll that you can take."

Pelosi: Bush 'a total failure' - CNN.com
She's not worried about the 9% approval rating. She's not worried about the abject failure of this Congress to accomplish anything.

She's concerned solely about the partisan angle - screw the Country and the People, what's best for my party?

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she is worthless...but then that is what I expected.
This congress is an absolute failure, and disappointing to say the least.
They placed politics over the good of the people.
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Is the performance of Congress completely dependent on the performance of the President?

Pelosi is an abject failure...
Well, if you go back say 80 years and look at something like job growth, you'll notice that the highest job growth occurred during the administrations of Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Clinton.
And the lowest job growth occurred during the administrations of Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush and baby Bush.

Coincidence?
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Three houses must agree to pass any bill and the president has the only veto power. Pelosi has an impossible task to try to get agreement from any conservative at this time. Democrats have only one more member than the conservatives. And they all balk at any bill that might look good coming from the opposition.
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Three houses must agree to pass any bill and the president has the only veto power. Pelosi has an impossible task to try to get agreement from any conservative at this time. Democrats have only one more member than the conservatives. And they all balk at any bill that might look good coming from the opposition.
Two chambers must agree to pass a bill.

Pelosi has a solid majority in the house. It's not just one seat.

And the Congress can over-ride a veto.

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You refuse to accept the fact, both parties now refuse to allow any bill to pass without their own stamp upon it. And the President Has vetoed every bill but those submitted by the Republicans. Regardless of how good the bill may be. Don't be so short sighted. They are all lawyers and believe they are right.
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Here's Pelosi exposing her true colors:



She's not worried about the 9% approval rating. She's not worried about the abject failure of this Congress to accomplish anything.

She's concerned solely about the partisan angle - screw the Country and the People, what's best for my party?

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Nice Slant, Pelosi sucks because she couldn't undo all the damage the Republicans did in 18 months, so everyone should vote Republican.

She couldn't lower the oil prices that the GOP has caused to rise, she couldn't stop the wars that the GOP started to boost their poll numbers, she could pay off the trillions in debt that the GOP has added with their hairbrain economic and fiscal policies, and she's had 18 months.

On the other hand the GOP congress couldn't stop Clinton from balancing the budget and creating 22 million new jobs. So it just shows how difficult it is for congress to overcome a president's agenda.
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Nice Slant, Pelosi sucks because she couldn't undo all the damage the Republicans did in 18 months, so everyone should vote Republican.
I never said any such thing.

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She couldn't lower the oil prices that the GOP has caused to rise, she couldn't stop the wars that the GOP started to boost their poll numbers, she could pay off the trillions in debt that the GOP has added with their hairbrain economic and fiscal policies, and she's had 18 months.
She's made no meaningful effort to stop the war.

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Two chambers must agree to pass a bill.

Pelosi has a solid majority in the house. It's not just one seat.

And the Congress can over-ride a veto.

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On one hand, everybody agrees it's a do-nothing Congress or a "Keep-Writing-Blank-Checks for Bush" Congress.

But why can't anyone admit what's really going on in the country is that part of the problem is that Bush claimed he was the big uniter, but rules like a dictator and is unbending about every single stance he has? Reagan and the Democrats worked together, and for the most part, Clinton and the Republicans did even better. But when it was all Republican for a few years there, we had the biggest spending increases in history, and it seems to have continued.

I don't much care for Pelosi and Reid, I think they're weak, but I also think that the average American out there realizes that it will take a new President for things to get done and that the 14% approval rating has everything to do with the fact that they didn't have the votes necessary to end the war.

Come November, no one is going to oust the Dems from Congress; they'll likely gain even more seats, which will baffle everyone on this thread because it seems unanimous here that the low approval rating is a reflection of Democrats only, which it isn't.
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You're right it is a toss-up. Our government is so busy with the infighting that goes on between Republicans & Democrats--(all looking for the coveted award of being the majority in both houses & the white house too--that they have completely ignored the wishes of the people they're suppose to serve).

I think it's time for "another shot that would be heard around the world". VOTE AGAINST THE INCUMBANT THIS NOVEMBER! It would be our own mini revolution, (without violence).

No matter how long they have been sitting in the senate or congress (warming their chairs with their lazy butts)--vote them out. Let's put fresh interested faces in our government--that are willing to work for us.

Your thoughts?
As opposed to the stale uninteresting feces presently in our government .
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Well, if you go back say 80 years and look at something like job growth, you'll notice that the highest job growth occurred during the administrations of Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Clinton.
And the lowest job growth occurred during the administrations of Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush and baby Bush.

Coincidence?


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Three houses must agree to pass any bill and the president has the only veto power. Pelosi has an impossible task to try to get agreement from any conservative at this time. Democrats have only one more member than the conservatives. And they all balk at any bill that might look good coming from the opposition.



Only because she's Pelosi. If she were willing to negotiate as opposed to her brand of my way or nothing asshattery then perhaps the House could do what its been able to do for hundreds of years before her.
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“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

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What is the debate?

If it's about whether Pelosi has performed poorly as the speaker, I don't see too much back and fourth...



how can there be ? by any measure, including her own, she's been abysmal.
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Nice Slant, Pelosi sucks because she couldn't undo all the damage the Republicans did in 18 months, so everyone should vote Republican.

as I said she and reid suck becasue they will not compromise, this Reagan clinton thing is bullshit, they all compromised ..that’s how its done. She and Reid will not...UNLESS there’s big fat juicy earmarks attached ala their approval over their signature issue , the war.......take your time, parse that for a few minutes.
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Look, there have been congresses in the past where in the exec. was one party, congress the other, things seemed to get done. The lack of compromise has ways been and always will be a 2 way street.
From time to time things they each do or not do appear more egregious along party lines as in the drilling fiasco. Mass public opinion is usually the only thing that moves them because it means local politics have gone bad for them too, so they get something done.
The drilling ordeal will, eventually pass unless oil drops significantly. Polling data will drive the compromise, after the dems have made totally sure their eco adherents know they have done everything humanly possible to deep six it.

I will say this congress really takes the cake and as the leadership of the reps deserves credit when it goes bad under their watch, so do Pelosi and Reid. They are the leaders, they own it. Its thier responsibility to work out these compromises.

I am 55 years old. I really don't remember this pit-bull--"hang on to your partisan political B.S." quite so strong as I have seen in recent years.

Congress & the senate are in complete stalemates. Even Reagan against a democrat house & senate was able to get things done. Clinton did too.

This congress is complete B.S.
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