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Pelosi a Total Failure

Nancy Pelosi continued her 2006 democrat platform of changing the tone in washington and going beyond partisanship with her praising of Bush yesterday as a "total failure". This prompted me to wonder what Pelosi has succeeded at?

Ending the war?
Reducing partisan bickering?
Cleaning up earmarks?

Pelosi calls Bush 'total failure' | Countdown to Crawford | Los Angeles Times
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Re: Pelosi a Total Failure

Was or is she the first female president.... I must have missed something!?
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Was or is she the first female president.... I must have missed something!?
Is the performance of Congress completely dependent on the performance of the President?

Pelosi is an abject failure...
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Pelosi can put a feather in her hat. She has not accomplished anything, except to block bills from coming to the floor for a vote. She & Harry Ried are the reasons nothing gets done in Washington. Our congress & senate might as well put up a boxing ring, put on the boxing gloves & sell tickets. In that way we could see that at least they're working out with one another for our tax dollars.

The last time I watched C-Span--we had congressmen sitting there listening to testimony regarding a professional baseball player talk about his steriod use! I guess that was more important than energy, the economy, health care, Iraq & Afganistan, social security & medicare, & education.

I guess this is why congress has an all-time low approval rating of 9%.

This November, why don't we all just vote against the incumbant. This would probably send a very good message to our government.

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Re: Pelosi a Total Failure

People that are in competition for something are always critical of each other. In this case, the coveted title is "total failure" and from here it looks like a toss up.
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People that are in competition for something are always critical of each other. In this case, the coveted title is "total failure" and from here it looks like a toss up.

You're right it is a toss-up. Our government is so busy with the infighting that goes on between Republicans & Democrats--(all looking for the coveted award of being the majority in both houses & the white house too--that they have completely ignored the wishes of the people they're suppose to serve).

I think it's time for "another shot that would be heard around the world". VOTE AGAINST THE INCUMBANT THIS NOVEMBER! It would be our own mini revolution, (without violence).

No matter how long they have been sitting in the senate or congress (warming their chairs with their lazy butts)--vote them out. Let's put fresh interested faces in our government--that are willing to work for us.

Your thoughts?
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Where IS the common sense?

Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels. . . .

Nancy Pelosi, April 6, 2006
The bickering has been ongoing for as long as I can remember. Politicians don't want a solution, they want an issue they can demagogue. At least Pickens has put forth his ideas for us to look at. I'm not sure Congress could even understand his approach let alone the merits.

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Is the performance of Congress completely dependent on the performance of the President?

Pelosi is an abject failure...
She has made herself responsible for the democrats in the House. She has made promises, and failed to deliver. She has responsibility for moving the house forward, scheduling, etc. She is responsible for negotiating with the senate and the president on conflicts. Instead she creats conflict. She is a total failure.
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Re: Pelosi a Total Failure

Look, there have been congresses in the past where in the exec. was one party, congress the other, things seemed to get done. The lack of compromise has ways been and always will be a 2 way street.
From time to time things they each do or not do appear more egregious along party lines as in the drilling fiasco. Mass public opinion is usually the only thing that moves them because it means local politics have gone bad for them too, so they get something done.
The drilling ordeal will, eventually pass unless oil drops significantly. Polling data will drive the compromise, after the dems have made totally sure their eco adherents know they have done everything humanly possible to deep six it.

I will say this congress really takes the cake and as the leadership of the reps deserves credit when it goes bad under their watch, so do Pelosi and Reid. They are the leaders, they own it. Its thier responsibility to work out these compromises.
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Nancy Pelosi continued her 2006 democrat platform of changing the tone in washington and going beyond partisanship with her praising of Bush yesterday as a "total failure". This prompted me to wonder what Pelosi has succeeded at?

Ending the war?
Reducing partisan bickering?
Cleaning up earmarks?

Pelosi calls Bush 'total failure' | Countdown to Crawford | Los Angeles Times
I think Pelosi's one of the poorest speaker of the house that there's ever been and I really doubt your going to find many people defending her.

However, she's not the only person saying GWB is a failure. The messenger is perhaps hypocritical in this case, but her message is quite common.
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I think Pelosi's one of the poorest speaker of the house that there's ever been and I really doubt your going to find many people defending her.

However, she's not the only person saying GWB is a failure. The messenger is perhaps hypocritical in this case, but her message is quite common.



And quite commonly incorrect.

Two Supreme Court justices seated
Multiple front global war against ialamic facism proceeding apace
Near historic prosperity, economy and employment
Cleaning up the N Korean mess
Guiding I/P toward a productive direction
Returning (generally) sensible relations with Germany and France
Broke the Curse of the Bambino
Got Joe Torre out of Yankee Stadium
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And quite commonly incorrect.

Two Supreme Court justices seated
Multiple front global war against ialamic facism proceeding apace
Near historic prosperity, economy and employment
Cleaning up the N Korean mess
Guiding I/P toward a productive direction
Returning (generally) sensible relations with Germany and France
Broke the Curse of the Bambino
Got Joe Torre out of Yankee Stadium
Are those items being cited tounge-in-cheek?
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Are those items being cited tounge-in-cheek?


some of them
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I think Pelosi's one of the poorest speaker of the house that there's ever been and I really doubt your going to find many people defending her.

However, she's not the only person saying GWB is a failure. The messenger is perhaps hypocritical in this case, but her message is quite common.
Thats not the debate here.
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Thats not the debate here.

What is the debate?

If it's about whether Pelosi has performed poorly as the speaker, I don't see too much back and fourth...
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