okay; one m o r e t i m e ...he knew there would be no photos allowed...no photo ops etc.........get it?

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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Thus endith the excuses................

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste...." - Rahm Emmanuel

Change "photo op" in the above to "headline op" and my opinion is unchanged.

I agree....

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Well, AA, I don't agree with you. This entire trip, as Mudwhistle pointed out, was one big photo op, and part of Obama's campaign. If he'd visited the troops, that visit would have been perceived to be in the context of his campaign trip abroad. And that perception would have been accurate. This is particularly so because these were wounded troops (I believe he did visit troops in service in Iraq, no?). It would have been insensitive and the wrong thing to do.

Later, when he's president, different story. Not now.

Perhaps Obama backed out because it wasn't going to be a photo-op. Or perhaps he just doesn't care about our troops enough to offer them some support. Ether way he was wrong.

Showing up would have helped but he chose not to. Just one more example of his habit of making terrible decisions and not caring about the repercussions.

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste...." - Rahm Emmanuel

No shit Sherlock. Visiting our troops in Iraq was unavoidable since all of the Green Zones (Safe Zones) in Iraq are military bases or guarded by our military.

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Ok, let's check it out, then.... Here's all the legislation sponsored by John McCain that passed the Senate in the 101st congress (His first 2 years as a senator)

Untitled Document Search Terms (John McCain + Sponsored + keyword 'passed' + public)
Pretty insignificant.

Well, perhaps it was significant to the Arizona indians. McCain seemed to have a soft spot for them.

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You think he was a member of that church for 20 years for no reason? Maybe he went there because the music was better. Maybe they had a better basketball court. Get real. They preach Black Liberation Theology and Barack had no problem with it until it became a political issue. And he had no problem with it because in large parts of the black community, those views are seen as mainstream, with nothing radical about it.

As to the second part, that's just Jesse's sour grapes because he isn't a player anymore.

I wonder how Obama feels about the idea of restitution for slavery.

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thats to what he said and thats not what he intended...did you read the link?

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

Or perhaps he understood that a visit would have constituted political exploitation of wounded vets, and he was noble enough to forego that advantage and not be a jackass.

You see, I can make assumptions about people's motivations as easily as you can, and mine are worth just as much as yours -- zero being equal to zero.

Or, to state a more likely possibility and something in accord with common sense, he stayed away partly because it would have been wrong to exploit wounded vets for political purposes, and partly because it would have backfired politically. (Nice when morality and self-interest are able to coincide. Which one was the stronger motive? No idea. I'm sure they were both present.)

The only mistake he made was to schedule the visit in the first place.

Neither do I, and neither does anyone else except a hardcore right-winger, and as far as I know neither does he. He DOES have a problem with some of the specific things Wright has said, and a bigger problem with Wright trying to undermine his campaign.

I KNEW you’d be back. Hey, he took care of his constituents, and it didn’t cost anything either. I’ll bet you’re on hillarys too…..come on, tell me it aint so?

Yup, pretty skimpy, though it was the 90s…..

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

Yes I read the link, and I also tried to read your post but it's jumbled up and makes no grammatical or linguistic sense. Can you rephrase, please?

what he says and whats more what he intended doesn't wash.....it was a political decision, he meanders around it but its really right there in his own words.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor