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Old 08-03-2008
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Obama: Not Enough Time for Town Halls

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Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain’s challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.

In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, “I think that’s a great idea.” In summer stumping on the campaign trail, McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.

Obama’s reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy he’s adopted since claiming the nomination and grabbing a lead in national polls. Advisers to the Illinois senator, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss strategy, say Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama’s the front-runner.

On Saturday, in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the short period between the last political convention and the first proposed debate made it likely that the commission-sponsored debates would be the only ones.
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McCain first invited Obama to duel it out in Town Halls back in early June, so to say there isn't enough time is a cop out. What's he afraid of? Unscripted questions from real people instead of soft balls from idolizing MSM moderators maybe? Would he rather talk to a teleprompter that doesn't talk back?
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Re: Obama: Not Enough Time for Town Halls

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McCain first invited Obama to duel it out in Town Halls back in early June, so to say there isn't enough time is a cop out. What's he afraid of? Unscripted questions from real people instead of soft balls from idolizing MSM moderators maybe? Would he rather talk to a teleprompter that doesn't talk back?
I'm really dissapointed that Obama didn't accept John McCain's offer. And I honestly also don't know why he refuses, for McCain is no match for Obama.
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lets recall in obamas own words that, he once said that townhalls were his thing, he had like 35 of them when running in elections past....and his anytime anywhere sounds kind of hollow now....
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In the south we say "if you're scared, say you're scared".
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McCain first invited Obama to duel it out in Town Halls back in early June, so to say there isn't enough time is a cop out. What's he afraid of? Unscripted questions from real people instead of soft balls from idolizing MSM moderators maybe? Would he rather talk to a teleprompter that doesn't talk back?
As he stated, why should he give McCain the limelight he would get by having townhall debates, when he is ahead in the polls. He already agreed to 3 debates following the conventions. He is out to win the election, not to give his opponent any breaks. Would John McCain give him a break, if the tables were turned? Hell, no.
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when someone is ahead in the polls they are scared to do these things cause it will hurt them

obama knows on the stage he will looke less presedential than mccain so he doenst want them plus these things matter very little except for those that were on the debate team in Highshool..........look how well Kerry did at drubbing bush prior to the 04 election....... those debates helped him alot didnt they
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He is out to win the election, not to give his opponent any breaks.

Interesting observation, and one I agree with. So the big thing, for Obama, is winning the election, not a straight up discussion of the issues. But it begs the question: where is the change we can believe in?
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As he stated, why should he give McCain the limelight he would get by having townhall debates, when he is ahead in the polls. He already agreed to 3 debates following the conventions. He is out to win the election, not to give his opponent any breaks. Would John McCain give him a break, if the tables were turned? Hell, no.
and that has what to do with his earlier commentary as to is relsiehing these meetings? and he aint so far ahead, in fact if we use the goober gallup poll, its a tie.....
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And I honestly also don't know why he refuses, for McCain is no match for Obama.
In a studied, scripted, antiseptic setting maybe.

Clearly though he (Obama) doesn't want to be put in a position where he'd be required to think on his feet or address questions and/or issues that Team Obama hasn't already brainstormed and spun into a focus-group-approved policy position sound bite.
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and that has what to do with his earlier commentary as to is relsiehing these meetings? and he aint so far ahead, in fact if we use the goober gallup poll, its a tie.....
Well, according to the discussion at the roundtable, on This Week with George Stephanopolous, it was determined that the almighty turnout will determine if the race is close or not. If young voters, who don't normally turn out, "do", the race will be decidedly, "not close", I'm almost sure, to your chagrin.
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Interesting observation, and one I agree with. So the big thing, for Obama, is winning the election, not a straight up discussion of the issues.
Winning the election has been "the big thing", in fact the only thing, for aspiring presidents since Washinton stepped down.

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But it begs the question: where is the change we can believe in?
I would hazard to guess that when Obama is elected you're going to see plenty of change. Not all good and not all bad, but plenty of change nevertheless.
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Interesting observation, and one I agree with. So the big thing, for Obama, is winning the election, not a straight up discussion of the issues. But it begs the question: where is the change we can believe in?
Discussion of the issues? Seems Obama is the only one giving details about what he'd do, and what needs to be done...instead of the spin and innuendo doled out by McCain.
The 3 debates following the conventions, will place the proverbial nail in someone's coffin. It was mentioned that Reagan didn't seal the deal until his final debate, 7 days before the election in '80.
Don't worry, the issues will be discussed, at least by one camp.
As to change you can believe in....some will never convert, even though the writing is on the wall. You know.....altered states.
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Obama's a pussy.

If he's elected, he will, almost single-handedly, destroy this country.

Those who support him will be complicit, and will be held to account for their extraordinary idiocy...
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Obama cannot control a town hall debate. Of course he is going to chicken out. Its what cowards do. Talk big but no backbone.
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I would hazard to guess that when Obama is elected you're going to see plenty of change. Not all good and not all bad, but plenty of change nevertheless.
My question is about the aspirational "change" in American politics which he purports to be, not changes in particular laws or policies.

His refusal to actually engage in a public forum, about the issues, with his opponent and without the benefit of Orwellian control is troubling.
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