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Old 08-04-2008
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Re: Democrats Adjourn Congress, Republicans Stay and Work

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You assume they are putting political considerations ahead of the best interests of the country. I don't.

In fact I think the reps are using a manufactured "crisis" to put the oil cos interests ahead of the country's interests.

Or at least that's what they're trying to do....
HOw does that explain the 80% of people who want offshore drilling?
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HOw does that explain the 80% of people who want offshore drilling?
A: The will of the population only matters when advancing leftism. That's when "51% of people don't want to kick gays' asses" somehow becomes "overwhelming support for gay marriage".

Be serious. You knew that answer, already.
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HOw does that explain the 80% of people who want offshore drilling?
First off, I don't know that it's 80%.

Secondly, it would not be the first time that X% of the nation were shortsighted morons.
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A: The will of the population only matters when advancing leftism. That's when "51% of people don't want to kick gays' asses" somehow becomes "overwhelming support for gay marriage".

Be serious. You knew that answer, already.
51% is not enough to change the Constitution which provides for equal protection under the law.
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Old 08-04-2008
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Re: Democrats Adjourn Congress, Republicans Stay and Work

Pelosi is the all knowing parent that knows what is better for you and me.

We should be thanking her for this in sight to the future.

In 1911 the House controled by the Dems voted to cap the number at 435 and for the bulk of the years from then to now they have controled the house with their ideas and ways of doing things.

The Dems finally came around on the idea that no matter the color of skin we where the same when public opion forced them to take notice.... maybe they will hear the public again only on this matter of energy.
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51% is not enough to change the Constitution which provides for equal protection under the law.
ROFL. First off, you didn't read what I wrote, otherwise, you'd have said "49%".

Secondly, "equal protection under the law" is just about the weakest argument you can me - for anything. I'll let faggots marry if we start paying a flat taxes across the board and do away with all racial, gender, and economic class-based legislation.

Why not mandate that model rail road enthusiasts have the right link up and enjoy all marriage benefits, too, as their hobby has as much to do with marriage as pillowbiting does.

"Equal protection under the law." Now, that was funny! Was it intentional?
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ROFL. First off, you didn't read what I wrote, otherwise, you'd have said "49%".

Secondly, "equal protection under the law" is just about the weakest argument you can me - for anything. I'll let faggots marry if we start paying a flat taxes across the board and do away with all racial, gender, and economic class-based legislation.

Why not mandate that model rail road enthusiasts have the right link up and enjoy all marriage benefits, too, as their hobby has as much to do with marriage as pillowbiting does.

"Equal protection under the law." Now, that was funny! Was it intentional?

We are fortunate, that you don't get to decide.
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We are fortunate, that you don't get to decide.
So, Equal Protection Under the Law is only a valid argument, to you, when advancing leftism?

Just admit it and we can move along.
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Re: Democrats Adjourn Congress, Republicans Stay and Work

I find it very funny that when there's one time the Democrats actually show some spine the conservatives on this board are going nuts.
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So, Equal Protection Under the Law is only a valid argument, to you, when advancing leftism?

Just admit it and we can move along.
Not sure to what you're referring (seems OT), but no.
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I find it very funny that when there's one time the Democrats actually show some spine the conservatives on this board are going nuts.
It doesn't take much to set off the neocons, however I don't see how going on a long vacation and not getting any work done constitutes as "showing some spine".
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It doesn't take much to set off the neocons, however I don't see how going on a long vacation and not getting any work done constitutes as "showing some spine".
How about refusing to kowtow to demagoguery?
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We dont have a shortage currently, thus no need to use the SPR. Also, the SPR is for strategic uses, not political. We need a plan for long term energy, not short term, and the longer we wait, the worse it gets. What do we do in 3 months when the SPR runs out?
I agree that Repubs use of the offshore issue is purely political and not strategic except in terms of electioneering.

However how can you say that a solution ten years from now is a better solution to the problems of today? That seems equally disingenuous. If there is a real crisis then it's a perfectly appropriate use of the bloated SPR.

Everything about the demand for increased offshore drilling smacks of profiteering rather than patriotism. But Obama has it right. We'll swallow your bad idea if it helps us get to an energy policy that truly encourages renewables. Your move...
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Re: Democrats Adjourn Congress, Republicans Stay and Work

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How about refusing to kowtow to demagoguery?
So if I took a nap while my neighbor's house was on fire instead of calling the fire department would you say I'm standing up to the public pressure of common decency?
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Re: Democrats Adjourn Congress, Republicans Stay and Work

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It doesn't take much to set off the neocons, however I don't see how going on a long vacation and not getting any work done constitutes as "showing some spine".

I think he means blocking our energy plans.

But if he thinks that's bad then wait and see what happens if Obama gets elected....
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