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Re: McCain forgets how many houses he owns
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Re: McCain forgets how many houses he owns
He probably has part ownership in houses for his children, waiting until they can take over mortgages for themselves. As well as being tied up in mortgages from his previous marriage and children. He's probably taking care of a lot of people and leaves those details to an accountant. It gets confusing. I don't think these are seven "pleasure palaces" or anything he flits around to. It's probably more an idication of his responsibility to loved ones. Just my opinion.
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Judging from the lack of new posts even the left thinks this is a stupid subject.
Guess what, the press can't get it right. They claim McCain doesn't know and now it seems they can't figure it out ether even though they can check the tax records that are available to anyone with a MSL subscription. And here's the kicker. The latest Obama ad has it wrong. They claim he owns 7. Now it has been made public it is 8, so the Obama camp jumped on this so quickly that even they got it wrong. Hell, I've got more then 8 properties. So what's the Obama camp's point other then they can't count. Quote:
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My guess is Obama is going to be talking about this for quite some time and now it is shown that he got it wrong. When they claimed that McCain owns only 7 properties I said, "So What!!!" But then it was discovered that he has at least 8 it just shows that the Obama camp got it wrong and that they are getting desperate. And now he's opened the bag and let out an issue that the McCain camp can use that makes Obama look like a crook and and idiot.
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When you look at it do you want somebody who doesn't have a pot to piss in?
The Clintons didn't even own a home when they moved into the White House. By the time they left they were millionaires.. Where did they get all of their money from? Do you want somebody who's independently wealthy or do you want someone who is living month to month and thus more likely to be on the take? I would rather have someone in there that is taking a step-down in pay then a step-up. I really think the Democrats have their priorities out of whack.
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They say 7 but in fact its 8! Thats just about the best mistake one can make! Acutally, this simply gives strength to the charge being made by the Obama camp. Id advise the Obama camp to keep talking about it. Its a beautiful attack piece and itll be nice to see the Republican machine having to defend such attacks rather than throwing them. Its the question many Brits want to know, how do Republicans deal with the same tactics they have employed for years? |
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That was the very same argument that the Lords made in parliament before the commons took power. Only the landed gentry could be assured of incorruptability because they did not need to gain a wage from government. Trouble is, the landed gentry were actually more corrupt than anyone, in fact thats how they maintained their large estates! But please America, feel free to follow this line to its proper extent. I look forward to seeing congress resplendent with America's aristocrats in their furs and tweed jackets. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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This whole campaign is probably going to remain very close right until the end, because America is about evenly split. Everyone knows that. It should be common knowledge by now that the conventions and the first debates in the fall help to crystalize the average voter's perception of the candidates, and not the tit-for-tat bullshit that goes on over the summer with stories such as these. The people who will decide this election are that breed of people who vote all the time but are apt to voting for the candidate who they feel projects confidence while appearing most like them. That idea comes first from the conventions, and then in the first debate. And it's all about perception. If Obama wins, it will be because those people feel that he embodies the opposite of all the crap they can't stand about the people in the White House over the last 8 years and that the opponent represents the status quo. If McCain wins, it will be because those people feel that like Bush, despite the things they disagree with, that the guy is perceived as being stronger on national security and that "whether we agree with him or not, we know where he stands". So basically, like Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and then Bush, all Obama has to do, as the new guy on the scene, is make the undecideds comfortable and project a basic level of competence and understanding and humility for the job of being President, while McCain has to convince the undecideds in the convention and the first debate that he's got tons of energy and seems to be younger than his years. On that basis, this should ensure that the presidential campaign will get even stupider yet. |
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The Clintons were not rich upon leaving office. They got rich shortly after they left office and wrote their books and gave their speeches. Bill Clinton and his administration is the only one in about a century in America that actually reversed the trend of digging deeper into debt. His experience as Governor was partly due to that, but even more so, I bet it had to do with a strict moral value of his about not buying anything you can't afford, since he came from a working poor background. The Bushes were independently wealthy and they bankrupted the country. Reagan was wealthy and he did no better. Rich, middle, poor, doesn't matter; don't buy what you can't afford. It's common sense. But since the American public no longer accepts wanting to hear the truth, adults among them get elected to go to Washington and represent the worst among us instead of actually electing truth-tellers who have the good sense to tell us that we can no longer afford the crazy spending and borrowing habits we now have. |
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The issue here is that many in the GOP, including McCain, have suggested that Barack Obama is out-of-touch with the average middle-class American. They've tried to assign him an "elitist" label in an attempt to portray him as snobbish and distant. Karl Rove even described him as "the guy at the country club with the beautiful date, holding a martini and a cigarette that stands against the wall and makes snide comments about everyone who passes by." (Political Punch) Though John McCain, himself, didn't make these remarks, he has defended this "Obama is out-of-touch" mentality, and, thus, he has become susceptible to criticism when he makes a comment that is perceived as, "Gee, I've got so many houses I can't even keep track." That being said, I'm not sure it's fair to hold the man completely accountable for making that mistake. It can be a difficult question because it depends on what you mean by own. It also depends on what the reporter meant by you. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say that either candidate is particularly more out-of-touch than any usual candidate running for president, so the whole purpose of the argument is pretty moot.
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The Obama campaign has moved QUICKLY, check out this series of ads. They are pretty devastating and are a huge part of why Clinton was able to defeat Bush in 1992.
YouTube - "Fix the Economy" Ad YouTube - "Better Off" Ad YouTube - General "Three Times" Ad YouTube - "Seven" - TV Ad And the Obama campaign is doing a good job of putting out localized negative ads that get at issues people in those states care about. Ohio YouTube - [PRES] Obama: Punch Nevada YouTube - "Backyard" Ad YouTube - Nevada "Dangerous" Ad
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