come on. jez. Moron's been hiding under a rock ever since Kerry lost. this is his big chance to jump on stage and drop his pants and moon America with the biggest fat ass in medical history. when its over its back under the rock. he knows god????
the Moron on Osama. Democrats Could Blow It.........(again!???!!!) link

That's him playing both the left and right. Moore is to the Dems and/or left what pastors with prostitutes are to the right.

That Moore letter in '04 was another chutzpah move, an attempt to pretend to be the Dem's top cheerleader and stir up the left/right rhetoric. It was also to fool the public and/or make them forget how he torpedoed the Dems in '00 by actively championing Nader. Google his '00 letters to Gore and you'll get the whole picture. With 'friends' like that, who needs enemies. His real deal was making a load of money and fame and name for himself.

That was all to fill the coin box for his movie. He starts off his Fahrenheit 9.11 movie portraying a Greek tragedy of 'Gore losing to a GOP fix' but hhhhmmmmm...remarkably forgets to include the big role he played in acquiring left leaning Dem and independent voters to Nader.

If it wasn't for Nader and Moore, Gore would have won. But backing Gore and seeing him win wouldn't have been good for the bottom line. So, he helped Bush win, pretending to be a champion of the 'real left.' That makes no issue sense, but it sure makes financial sense.

He turned around and used the Bush presidency he caused to stir the pot the other direction to make more money capitalising on the angsts of the Bush presidency with his films. Not just F911, but the others too. And the champion of the poor lives in some very nice pads as a result, charging high speaking fees to boot. He's the conciousless capitalist he claims to oppose and decry, a Gordon Gekko manipulating the stock market on 'Left Street.' The political right gets a phyrric victory by being maligned as part of his fiddle and playing right into his rhetoric too.

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even the dems think moore is a dangerous insect that should be squished.

So what about Jeb's illegal scrubbing of Florida's voter list? Isn't it a fact that that damaged Gore a lot more than Nader did?

Why didn't the Gore campaign bring that up at the Supreme Court? What about disenfranchisement of black voters?

And why did no Democratic Senator co-sponsor any of twenty Democratic Representative's objections to certification of the electoral vote? No fight in them? Is disenfranchisement of black voters a non-issue for Democratic Senators?

And why shouldn't Nader have said fuck you to Gore, considering the way the Democrats worked to shut him out of the debates?

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that was the point i wanted to make........ MSNBC is just fucking going way over the edge in slant

Olberman commenting on Obama's speech.....he was trying to do is best Richard Burton impression.

It went something like this:



When I heard it I almost lost it.

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The scrubbing of a huge number of blacks from the rolls through intentionally substandard felon purgings (never mind it's one of the few states that even do purge felons even when their sentences are complete) was politically motivated disenfranchisement. In no manner whatsoever do I think that was kosher--it was pondscum to do that and a denial of the fundamental right to vote. People who shared common names often got purged even if their records of age, SS#, place of conviction, etc, easily signalled they weren't the same person but shared a name. Heck, black preachers were reporting they got purged as felons and found out only at the voting station.

In fact, Moore did a horrible job connecting the dots that he could have--he merely pointed in ten seconds that it happened and pointed to Katherine Harris and all the Bushes and SCOTUS GOPers as playing a role so it wound up accusational rather than documentary. In fact, he didn't touch on any of the alleged irregularities anywhere, just accused.

Now, ask yourself why he did that--just accuse across the board in conspiracy fashion and not explain. By doing that in drive-by hitjob fashion rather than show, he was looking for shit stirring--getting GOPers to fire back, counterattack, deny, etc, and letting the left and right overstate, obfuscate, etc about who did what...the whole back and forth shebang. That's what sells his movies. Otherwise, it's just another Dateline and PBS documentary.

His hitjob movie motivated the right more than the left because the right used him as the strawman for the left and the dartboard to get even ("I'll show you Micheal Moore! I'm voting for Bush and getting my buddies to do so too!"). The left and anti-Bush disgruntled people were already voting for Kerry.

And none of that goes toward explaining his own role in 2000. Who then and since have been giving funds and other help to Nader? The Dem or GOP funders? He knew that, he knew Nader's effect, and he was a part of it. And it never was in his movie, something that also aggravated the right and motivated them too with its one-sided and half-truthed attack by a guy who had no standing to talk smack about them.

Moore has made a boatload of money because Bush has won twice. Bush is the gift that keeps on giving. Moore knew that. If he really cared about his supposed 'issues' he would never have intentionally sought to spoil Gore. He said directly in 2000 that Bush would be a horrible POTUS, the pits of the pits. And he helped him win, and that's exactly what he's been getting rich capitalising upon.

He isn't going to make as much visibility and money if Obama wins either, which is why I suspect he'll say things like he did here once again to stir shit and motivate the right and get them to use him as a strawman for the left, and leaving right and left fighting and accusing each other.

He's likely already thinking of his next movie with a McCain win "Toilet Bowl II, the Overflow" or something similarly snarky, with all the stirrings once again and cashing in on fame, money, etc.

He sells controversy, and he needs controversy to sell.

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doesnt surprise me this guy has been his talking head since day one, hell he does spots for Bill Maher i watched that today and as i stated on another thread, he fucking used a whole bottle of KY jerking off to a dedication of highlights set to music for the DNC convention. He had a fucking tear in his eye after it was played.... the fucking guy annoys me so much i wont watch NBC football for his fucking ass is on the halftime show........how anyone can like this guy watch his show and not think dude is fucking a obamaite is beyond me..... wait ..... there are some on here........who love this dude,..... fucking weird

That about sums it up.

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Exactly. The rep party has become what the dem party was, and, the dem party has become openly socialist. The entire landscape has moved drastically to the left. I think it's caused by global warming somehow. I haven't worked out the details of my theory yet.

It could be caused by el nino, or maybe sunspots. Don't forget those possible causes in formulating your theory.

Jihad Gustov. just like Jihad Katrina...............

Democrats have Michael Moore.

Republicans have Ann Coulter.

Seriously, which of the two is worse?

that's like asking do you want a nice trimmed steak or a 5000 lb fat burger

I would say Moron...Ann Coulter is dismissed by all but the most rabid conservatives...Michael Moron has a much larger audience.
What is interesting is why Coulter continues to have appearances on all of the cable networks....Moron that I know of is only a regular on MSNBC's liberal mouthpiece "Count Down"

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