Exactly, Zogby Interactive is one of the worst polls ever. The C-SPAN, Zogby, Reuters poll is pretty good...but it's a huge misnomer that Kerry was winning the polls at this time. He wasn't.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Colorado: McCain vs. Obama

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Florida: McCain vs. Obama

It's time to look reality in the eye.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

They did nail it one year either 2000 or 2004. And they got it when all the rest did not. I kind of want to say it was 2000 but I really cannot recall.

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Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

I would contend that Scott Rasmussen had the race dead right. http://legacy.rasmussenreports.com/MembersOnly/Daily%20Tracking%20Updates/State%20Polling%20Summary.htm

And while Rasmussen consistently has the lowest leads for Obama they have him winning VA, CO, NM, PA and FL right now.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

What a blast he shot into his own foot.

The old FOOL!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

Zogby’s final ’04 results, Bush 49.8%/Kerry 48.6%--election results Bush 50.8%/Kerry 48.4%

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

The problem with polls is this in essence is just educated guessing. The only poll that counts is the one held on the second tuesday in november every 2 years.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

Now that I think about it maybe I don't buy it either.

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"Hard work without talent is a shame, but talent without hard work is a tragedy." -fortune cookie

Thats not what you and the other Kool-Aid drinkers were saying a lil over a month or so ago when McCain was enjoying a brief rise in the polls though.

Rasmussen has a very open system that you can read every day on their website, and their polling is a little more cautious than Gallup and a few others.

When you look at the RCP averages for the nation and then for individual states, Rasmussen is right there with all the averages.

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“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."-Sarah Palin, not having a clue once again about what she is talking about.

Yep, same thing I said.

Look at some of the quotes of the conservatives during that time...

I think there's a whole lot of bullshit that won't ever come to fruition. For instance, there won't be a Bradley effect. Obama finished on average, 2% above the polls in the 57 primary contests against Hillary Clinton. No Bradley there.

I think the youth vote is for real this time. They represent an average of like 8 or 9% of the primary/caucus votes usually, but this year it was 17%, which means they're energized and they're not going to just go away. As for cellphone only users not being polled, I don't think it's such a dramatic number that it would change things much. Most pollsters still insist that the numbers for cell users and landline people would be about the same. But this year, it certainly feels like the campuses are going to count for a little more.

I don't think many people change their minds. The American electorate is like 80-85% dug in. It's only some independent voters and a few undecideds who kind of wait until the last minute, and I think they're the only ones who change their mind as they go.

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“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."-Sarah Palin, not having a clue once again about what she is talking about.

Could Obama been thinking of the 57 primary comments when he mistakenly said 57 states?

I think its quite probable.

I wonder what's McCain's excuse for his many gaffes and mistatements.

You have some proof where I said something different?

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

Yes, that's exactly what Obama meant......57 state contests altogether, because some states had primaries as well as caucusses, and then there was Puerto Rico, American Samoa, and the territories.

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“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."-Sarah Palin, not having a clue once again about what she is talking about.

Did you see the "proof" I provided of your contemporaries?