Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Whoa!!! Being a stay at home mom IS a full time job and IMO, the most important job a woman will ever have if she is a mother. Many families could make it on one salary if we didn't have to have the latest and greatest of everything. My dad supported us on his income and though we didn't have new cars every couple of years or a house in a gated community, we had something that a lot of kids today don't have. We had a mother waiting with a hot meal at the end of the day. We weren't raised by babysitters and daycare. To say that because we choose not to work we should expect to lose some of our rights is ridiculous!
Now, in your case, your mother had no other choice but to work because your father chose not to honor his role as provider. My hat's off to her as I was in her shoes for four years until I remarried. My ex still owes me thousands in back support which was being repaid to me $174/month until Katrina hit. It seems the child support agency lost track of him after that. In my opinion, males like your dad and my ex-husband aren't men and they're the ones that should lose rights, not full time mothers.
I've had it all in my lifetime, a family and a career but my career doesn't mean jackshit to me because my biggest accomplishments have been as a wife and mother and now a grandmother. I'm not an emotional cripple, nor am I emotionally weaker than a man. I just know where my priorities lie.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Um, you do know that the rich kids generally didn't get drafted, right?

Originally Posted by Jack

Rich kids were all around me in Nam. Stock brokers, Lawyers kids, and even doctors kids. ETC I know some people went to Canada. rich and poor. Couards, some beat the draft. Elvis was drafted. I had a friend that was with him in Germany. Every one likes to say just the poor were drafted. I was not poor or was I rich. my family had a business that I had to leave. We lost money while I was gone. After talking it over with family I decided to go for the better training and stay in. It was the right thing to do for me. Now I suppose you going to tell me that the blacks were the only ones drafted.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

But why should your priorities take precedence over a man's? That's what it really comes down to. And, no, I can't buy accept that the mere possession of a uterus and breasts is sufficient cause.


And, BTW, I don't look down on women who are able to stay home and raise the kids. I'd love to be able to put my wife (or she me) in that position; we've already decided that for at least the first few years, one of us will stay home if we're going to have kids. I recognize that parenting is vital. I just don't share the belief that parenting has to be (or is more effecitvely) performed by the woman.

Originally Posted by Jack

Rich kids were all around me in Nam. Stock brokers, Lawyers kids, and even doctors kids. ETC I know some people went to Canada. rich and poor. Couards, some beat the draft. Elvis was drafted. I had a friend that was with him in Germany. Every one likes to say just the poor were drafted. I was not poor or was I rich. my family had a business that I had to leave. We lost money while I was gone. After talking it over with family I decided to go for the better training and stay in. It was the right thing to do for me. Now I suppose you going to tell me that the blacks were the only ones drafted.

Originally Posted by Jack

I Salute him. You as well. He didn't have it easy where he was either. My most impressive after thought of Nam, was the young girls that were there. Candy strips and donut dollys as well a others. I have seen some of these kids, (I was 23) risk their lives and some did loose, when the dust offs went out for the wounded. Some times there wen't enough men to go and these gals went in their places. Some were young nurses and some were just going to help. At times we were summoned to cover the LZs as we were in the field near them. I was a sniper and could see from a long distance away. These gals would jmp out of the choppers and tend the wounded, help get them in, all the while under fire. Sometimes heavy. Back in the compound I would hear stories, how they would hold the guys hand and comfort him, tell them how they would be OK. This got a lot of the guys back. period. Many got the attention that saved their lives, because of these brave girls. Women still in their teens. God, they never got the recognition they desirved. They wern't supposed to be in a combat zone anyway,But there they were. I never forgot them and I tell the story.

Originally Posted by Rakkasan

only dems talk of drafts, thus being able to later say republicans are for it , the last 2 draft proposals were by dems, then used as talking points by dems

Originally Posted by moon

Very commendable indeed, but I'd rather they weren't there in the first place so I'd oppose any of them being drafted. I'd also oppose any young men getting drafted too as I have absolutely no respect for warmongers. War is failure. Win or lose, war stories are chapters of a larger failure. McCain wants to fight. Let McCain go fight and good riddance.

' No Vietnamese ever called me nigger'

Muhammad Ali

Originally Posted by moon

' No Vietnamese ever called me nigger'

Muhammad Ali

Originally Posted by Screaming_eagle

I was thinking there may be a draft under Obama, who does not wish to end wars, only move troops around to fight in other places, and likely expand our Military's commitments....

If the moonbats think that a Democratic White House will mean the end to war,
you've picked the wrong candidate for President of the United States.

Originally Posted by goober

I don't think we will see as much of that under the Democrats.

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Mindless fear mongering by Juan Cole.

You see, the President cannot initiate a draft. Only the Congress can do so, by passing legislation enacting a draft.

Selective Service System: What Happens In a Draft

Matt