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Old 11-11-2008
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Re: "Community Service" Yep, Mandatory.

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I am currently taking a management course at one of the top-30 ranked business schools in the world (Simon School), and I can tell you your assertion is false. I'm being taught by a former Xerox exec, and he teaches that the "Screw your neighbor" attitude hurts profits and efficiency in the long run. Don't believe me? GM is one of the quintessential "screw your neighbor" corporate cultures, and now they are collapsing. See how Amazon treats the employees and customers, and you will see the new face of Capitalism.

Capitalism does not teach one to be cut-throat. Capitalism teaches one to be profitable. American business is realizing a well-cared-for employee and customer base results in higher profits.
I agree with you but Capitalism does not take into account human nature. What it boils down to, is no matter where one works, stabbing a fellow employee in the back to get ahead is still commonplace. It also does not take into account nepotism and favoritism. It used to be, not long ago that in most companies, people who proved capable could move up in the company...all the way to the top. Now, middle management (the scapegoat zone) is about as far as one can go unless they have connections higher in the company. Rather than promote an employee to an upper management position, most companies higher from outside and most of those hires are friends, friends of friends (whether professional or personal) or family. Throughout my 14 year career in branding and advertising, this is what I have observed. I cannot count the amount of unqualified people who were supposed to be my supervisor through my freelancing years.

This is why unions are so popular but even these unions buy into this practice. The basic rule is that of you do not know the right people, you do not get into a union. Same goes for cops and firefighters.

"It's not what you know. It's who you know." This is what has killed our labor force over the years. It is also why we no longer have a sense of community. One one hand you can't blame people for this attitude. They are just trying to survive and will do whatever they have to to get ahead. On the other hand, you can blame people for this because in the long run if we all showed some unity, the brand of injustice and corruption that dominates our society would be defeated. Essentially, we as a society have been divided and conquered by the big business interests who want to manipulate the government to increase their wealth and influence.
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Old 11-11-2008
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Re: "Community Service" Yep, Mandatory.

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I am currently taking a management course at one of the top-30 ranked business schools in the world (Simon School), and I can tell you your assertion is false. I'm being taught by a former Xerox exec, and he teaches that the "Screw your neighbor" attitude hurts profits and efficiency in the long run. Don't believe me? GM is one of the quintessential "screw your neighbor" corporate cultures, and now they are collapsing. See how Amazon treats the employees and customers, and you will see the new face of Capitalism.

Capitalism does not teach one to be cut-throat. Capitalism teaches one to be profitable. American business is realizing a well-cared-for employee and customer base results in higher profits.
Disagreed. While there may be some that teach one position in a classroom, the experiences of capitalism teach something else. Since the vast majority of participants in the market never see that classroom, the teachings therein create little impact on the market.
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Old 11-11-2008
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Re: "Community Service" Yep, Mandatory.

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Oh, it all makes such perfect sense.

As the United States continues along its merry path toward a "cashless economy"--one where ALL the money is controlled by a handful of "investment bankers" and "venture capitalists"--it will become necessary for the government to collect taxes from hoi polloi in the form of some sort of service. You might liken it to the ancient concept of corvee. Such service will be needed not only to maintain roads, bridges, and public buildings, it will also serve to bind the population to the state in cooperative endeavor.

Many people in this forum have taken to pissing and moaning about President-elect Obama's calls for greater participation by the people, and particularly his notion that the members of our greater community should perform public service. My thought is that the best way to prevent mandatory public service is to ensure that all the wealth is NOT concentrated in the hands of a few.
On the other hand, if you are a supporter of the oncoming economic oligarchy, you MUST get used to the idea that most Americans will no longer be free people.
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Re: "Community Service" Yep, Mandatory.

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I am currently taking a management course at one of the top-30 ranked business schools in the world (Simon School), and I can tell you your assertion is false. I'm being taught by a former Xerox exec, and he teaches that the "Screw your neighbor" attitude hurts profits and efficiency in the long run. Don't believe me? GM is one of the quintessential "screw your neighbor" corporate cultures, and now they are collapsing. See how Amazon treats the employees and customers, and you will see the new face of Capitalism.

Capitalism does not teach one to be cut-throat. Capitalism teaches one to be profitable. American business is realizing a well-cared-for employee and customer base results in higher profits.
Big business does yes. Small business is still in the nineteenth century, or more properly the ninth...Joe the Miller certainly has no problem with the feudal Lord forcing all the peasants to use his services and no other.

Look at the ones on this board, the one guy actually posted a letter from this nimnul who got where he was by SBA loans and now wants to make sure the govt doesn't give anybody a break similar to his. The others are quite willing to start another Great Depression just so long as their taxes don't go up. To a man all of them seem to believe that businesspeople shouldn't have to pay taxes AT ALL, that apparently owning a business makes them all "achievers" who are so much better than we dirt under their feet that we should pay them for the ineffable privilege of having them swindle us and/or exploit our labor.
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