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Re: The DNC attack on Limbaugh just may backfire!

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You do realize ALL of those things are covered in the Preamble, right?
I disagree. It's from the Declaration of Independence, not the Preamble of the Constitution. Rush should know the difference if he's presenting himself as an all-American patriot...

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We believe that the preamble to the Constitution contains an inarguable truth that we are all endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life. [Applause] Liberty, Freedom. [Applause] And the pursuit of happiness.
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
It is obvious that Rush made a mistake.

I thought for sure he was going to get lambasted for that.
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Re: The DNC attack on Limbaugh just may backfire!

Doing this:

""" We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. """"


Allows you to have this:

""" Originally Posted by Rush Limbaugh
life. Liberty, Freedom. And the pursuit of happiness.


Also, the Preamble is NOT a stand-alone document. It is just the attention gainer for the more mundane stuff to floow.
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Old 03-09-2009
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Re: The DNC attack on Limbaugh just may backfire!

A bit more from the article by David Frum.

Why Rush is Wrong | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

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Look at America's public-policy problems, look at voting trends, and it's inescapably obvious that the Republican Party needs to evolve. We need to put free-market health-care reform, not tax cuts, at the core of our economic message. It's health-care costs that are crushing middle-class incomes. Between 2000 and 2006, the amount that employers paid for labor rose substantially. Employees got none of that money; all of it was absorbed by rising health-care costs. Meanwhile, the income-tax cuts offered by Republicans interest fewer and fewer people: before the recession, two thirds of American workers paid more in payroll taxes than in income taxes.

We need to modulate our social conservatism (not jettison—modulate). The GOP will remain a predominantly conservative party and a predominantly pro-life party. But especially on gay-rights issues, the under-30 generation has arrived at a new consensus. Our party seems to be running to govern a country that no longer exists. The rule that both our presidential and vice presidential candidates must always be pro-life has become counterproductive: McCain's only hope of winning the presidency in 2008 was to carry Pennsylvania, and yet Pennsylvania's most successful Republican vote winner, former governor Tom Ridge, was barred from the ticket because he's pro-choice.

We need an environmental message. You don't have to accept Al Gore's predictions of imminent gloom to accept that it cannot be healthy to pump gigatons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. We are rightly mistrustful of liberal environmentalist disrespect for property rights. But property owners also care about property values, about conservation, and as a party of property owners we should be taking those values more seriously.

Above all, we need to take governing seriously again. Voters have long associated Democrats with corrupt urban machines, Republicans with personal integrity and fiscal responsibility. Even ultraliberal states like Massachusetts would elect Republican governors like Frank Sargent, Leverett Saltonstall, William Weld and Mitt Romney precisely to keep an austere eye on the depredations of Democratic legislators. After Iraq, Katrina and Harriet Miers, Democrats surged to a five-to-three advantage on the competence and ethics questions. And that was before we put Sarah Palin on our national ticket.

Every day, Rush Limbaugh reassures millions of core Republican voters that no change is needed: if people don't appreciate what we are saying, then say it louder. Isn't that what happened in 1994? Certainly this is a good approach for Rush himself. He claims 20 million listeners per week, and that suffices to make him a very wealthy man. And if another 100 million people cannot stand him, what does he care? What can they do to him other than … not listen? It's not as if they can vote against him.

But they can vote against Republican candidates for Congress. They can vote against Republican nominees for president. And if we allow ourselves to be overidentified with somebody who earns his fortune by giving offense, they will vote against us.
I suggest very strongly that all who consider themselves conservatives pay close attention to this article. Go to it, read the whole thing. It's very important for the future of the Republican Party, and therefore for the future of the United States, of which the GOP is a crucial part, to understand what he's saying here. The GOP cannot afford to continue on its current trajectory. It is handing the future of America lock, stock and barrel to the Democrats, and while I'm pleased with that development for the moment, the Democrats are not to be trusted without opposition, even by a liberal like me. After all, the Democratic Party is full of politicians, and we all know what they're like.

Time now for Republicans to draw a deep breath and do a bit of soul-searching as to how the party needs to change and where it needs to go. And that means you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh, who insists no change is needed.
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TS good post.

But you wont find many republicans here. Its the incredible shrinking GOP effect.

Theyd rather pretend theyre just concerned citizens with a viewpoint than address the needs of their party and their movement.
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Well he does like talking to a better class of people.....
You've got to be joking..


No, not surprisingly...........you probably aren't.


This is why I can't be a Democrat.

They are the Einsteins who feel that it's a good idea to put a guy in charge who hates Americans more then he does our enemies. I would think that putting people with that kind of mindset would be a bit self-destructive. It assures the decline of your society. The Romans discovered this only too late. It's one of the reasons that Article II of the US Constitution was written the way it was.....to prevent someone who hates this country from holding the office of POTUS.
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You've got to be joking..


No, not surprisingly...........you probably aren't.


This is why I can't be a Democrat.

They are the Einsteins who feel that it's a good idea to put a guy in charge who hates Americans more then he does our enemies. I would think that putting people with that kind of mindset would be a bit self-destructive. It assures the decline of your society. The Romans discovered this only too late. It's one of the reasons that Article II of the US Constitution was written the way it was.....to prevent someone who hates this country from holding the office of POTUS.
will you stop with these silly statements?
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A bit more from the article by David Frum.

Why Rush is Wrong | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com



I suggest very strongly that all who consider themselves conservatives pay close attention to this article. Go to it, read the whole thing. It's very important for the future of the Republican Party, and therefore for the future of the United States, of which the GOP is a crucial part, to understand what he's saying here. The GOP cannot afford to continue on its current trajectory. It is handing the future of America lock, stock and barrel to the Democrats, and while I'm pleased with that development for the moment, the Democrats are not to be trusted without opposition, even by a liberal like me. After all, the Democratic Party is full of politicians, and we all know what they're like.

Time now for Republicans to draw a deep breath and do a bit of soul-searching as to how the party needs to change and where it needs to go. And that means you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh, who insists no change is needed.
A totally ass-backwards conclusion. Everything you said was correct up to the moment you mentioned Rush Limbaugh.

I think you haven't been listening to Rush so maybe you don't know what he's been saying for months. He says change in the GOP is what is needed. He says they're trying to act like Democrat-lite, not like Republicans. They're trying to get along and take the few scraps the Democrats are leaving them instead of fighting them tooth and nail.

What you said was 100% correct but because they're not acting like Conservatives they are in trouble. Maybe if they listened more to Rush they would realize this..........that is if they haven't completely compromised their core principles.......if they ever had any.

It's funny that during a time when the Democrats are the ones screwing the pooch all you find time to be critical of is Republicans like it's all their fault for letting the Democrat be so reckless.

"Sure they're messing up but the GOP is letting them!!!"

Do you realize how silly this sounds?
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Re: The DNC attack on Limbaugh just may backfire!

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A bit more from the article by David Frum.

Why Rush is Wrong | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com



I suggest very strongly that all who consider themselves conservatives pay close attention to this article. Go to it, read the whole thing. It's very important for the future of the Republican Party, and therefore for the future of the United States, of which the GOP is a crucial part, to understand what he's saying here. The GOP cannot afford to continue on its current trajectory. It is handing the future of America lock, stock and barrel to the Democrats, and while I'm pleased with that development for the moment, the Democrats are not to be trusted without opposition, even by a liberal like me. After all, the Democratic Party is full of politicians, and we all know what they're like.

Time now for Republicans to draw a deep breath and do a bit of soul-searching as to how the party needs to change and where it needs to go. And that means you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh, who insists no change is needed.
The Republican Party is now totally bankrupt morally. Conservatives should discard it and move on to some other vehicle though, it is my fondest wish that they follow their defunct faction into the dustbin of history and take the obsolete, unworkable and viciously immoral set of lies they call an ideology with them. Hopefully, they will soon be much like the American Nazis whom they now so closely resemble, a curiousity, something we shield our children's eyes from and move on rapidly whenever they somehow intrude into our normal, safe world.
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Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

What a joke you are.


Totally ignoring the facts.

Like I said...keep it up.



I seem to remember you yourself doing the name calling towards your leader I-Need-A-Rush Limbaugh...
I think you're a bit confused buddy.

Steve was doing the name calling.........not me.
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Totally ignoring the facts.
Here's a fact for you to ignore:

DNC Retards Want A Rush Billboard
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They- the adherents of each party are free to tear each other apart, it is unfortunately part of the sick process we have going.
But I think anyone would have an issue with say the wh getting on board and involving themselves in it.





read this

Rush Job: Inside Dems' Limbaugh plan - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

and below...

Last week, Politico reported that the White House had quarterbacked “Operation Rushbo” as a means of demonizing Republicans, exactly the kind of political character assassination Barack Obama had campaigned against for the past two years. Today, the International Herald-Tribune and the New York Times confirm this, albeit inadvertently, in a profile of Obama’s closest political adviser. David Axelrod gave the order to launch the attack machine:
A glimpse of Axelrod’s day offers a look at how he spends his time.
He arrives at the White House shortly after 7 a.m., a torturously early hour for a man known during the campaign for sending messages until the small hours of the morning. A cup of Earl Grey tea is waiting for him — he hates the taste of coffee and recalls having only two cups in his life — as he walks into his first appointment of the day, a meeting in the office of Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff, who has been a friend for 25 years.
He attends the economic briefing in the Oval Office, where the latest news and grim statistics are relayed to the president by a battery of advisers. When the classified intelligence briefing begins, Axelrod leaves the room. Later, he and a speechwriter sit down with Obama to review the three-ring binder containing each speech or statement the president will make that day.
Often in the late afternoons, he walks to the Situation Room to attend some meetings of the National Security Council, stopping to grab a handful or two of the M&Ms that are in a large bowl outside the room.
He also helps decide which fights to pick and which ones to avoid, making him a leading voice in setting the political tone in Washington. The recent back-and-forth with Rush Limbaugh, for example, was explicitly authorized by Axelrod, who told aides that it was not a moment to sit quietly after Limbaugh said he hoped that Obama would “fail.”

Hmm. After my initial post on Operation Rushbo, some criticized Politico for overreaching on their report. Do you think they may start to apologize for it, now that the NYT (which owns the IHT) has confirmed it, even as an afterthought?

Hot Air Blog Archive Operation Rushbo “explicitly authorized” by White House


Politico warns TV news viewers to take political analysis in the Age of Obama with a five-pound bag of Morton’s Salt. Barack Obama’s right-hand man, chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, holds daily conference calls with three prominent analysts who appear regularly as independent voices in the media’s political coverage. The “17-year-long conference call” provides Obama an excellent opportunity for message control:
Under other circumstances, the morning calls between Emanuel, [James] Carville, [George] Stephanopoulos and [Paul] Begala — pollster Stan Greenberg is another frequent member of the core group, a kind of “fifth Beatle” — might be a Society of Has-Beens, reliving ancient glories from the Little Rock “War Room.”
It was Emanuel’s ascension into Barack Obama’s inner circle — even as Carville and Begala remained closely linked with the defeated Clinton political machine — that saved the group from irrelevance.
The calls “are about what’s happening, what the implications are of what’s happening and what’s going on,” said Emanuel.
For the record, James Carville appears regularly on CNN’s Situation Room. Paul Begala also appears regularly on CNN. George Stephanopoulos has his own ABC show on politics, This Week. To my knowledge, none of them have disclosed this daily tête à tête with the Obama administration senior leadership.
Andrew Malcolm of the LA Times says this is more than old friends reliving glory days:
Many political operatives of both parties participate in such daily or weekly calls to ensure they’re all on the same talking points page and to exchange gossip and tips and anticipate what the opposition is going to say that day.
What’s different in the revelation about this group, however, is that one of them (Emanuel) is a key operative in the current administration with a huge political stake in getting its message out its way, and the other three can go on TV as alleged observers and pass along the talking point line that best benefits their pal Rahm. All free, until now, of any apparent conflict or caveats.
Something to keep in mind the next time you watch George “reporting” on ABC or Carville and Begala “commenting” on CNN or somewhere.
Last April, the Left went nuts when the New York Times reported that the Pentagon had provided briefings for military analysts in the American media for six years without any disclosure from the analysts themselves. Critics claimed that the Bush administration had engaged in a propaganda effort to skew coverage of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to generate support for both. The actual coverage from the media made that claim rather laughable, but the Pentagon suspended the briefings once they were made public.

In that case, though, the briefings got conducted by military experts, not political hacks. The Emanuel conference calls look far more egregious than the military briefings. It looks like a deliberate propaganda campaign, especially since none of the three have bothered to mention their cozy relationship with Obama’s right hand man. Viewers should know that these three commentators check in daily at the White House to see what the story of the day might — or should — be.

Hot Air Blog Archive Obama administration co-opting media analysts
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I think you haven't been listening to Rush so maybe you don't know what he's been saying for months.
You're right that I haven't been listening to him, but:

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He says change in the GOP is what is needed. He says they're trying to act like Democrat-lite, not like Republicans.
First, if he really believes that, which I doubt, he's full of shit. Second, for Republicans to be staunch, uncompromising true-believers is NOT change. It's same-old same-old. And third, it's clear to me that this harangue is preventive medicine. The worst thing in the world for Rush (in terms of income) would be for the GOP to become electable again.

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It's funny that during a time when the Democrats are the ones screwing the pooch
Oh, really? Tell me, who won the last two elections? Which party holds both houses of Congress and the White House now? Going against your own right-wing belief system is not "screwing the pooch," unless you're right, which you're not -- and even if you were, it still wouldn't be "screwing the pooch" until that was proved. For the moment at least, the Dems are riding high.

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"Sure they're messing up but the GOP is letting them!!!"

Do you realize how silly this sounds?
Sure, but that's not what I'm saying. I don't believe they are messing up. I believe they're doing exactly what's needed, or at least most of it -- and I believe they'll get around to the rest.

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OTOH we shouldn't get smug, the Republicans are evil not stupid.

If Limbaugh makes himself the bellwether for all the hatred being felt for
Republicans right now he could just save the GOP. If "we're not dittoheads" becomes the watchword of the New Republican Party then this could easily work in their favor.

Truly horrible if we let the new candidate start life as the Anti-Rush
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Truly horrible if we let the new candidate start life as the Anti-Rush
No it's not. Don't be such a partisan drip. That's exactly what we want. A progressive party matched against a solid, responsible conservative party is perfect (assuming we're going to have a two-party system to start with). In the past few decades, we've suffered through a conservative party (the Democrats) matched up against a right-wing-wacko party (the Republicans). The Dems have finally remembered they're supposed to be progressives, and as a result they won big. But that's only half of our political health restored.

For the Republicans to continue as unelectable right-wing wackos may be great for Democratic Party domination, but it's not good for America. If you love your country, wish the GOP a swift return to sanity.
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OTOH we shouldn't get smug, the Republicans are evil not stupid.

If Limbaugh makes himself the bellwether for all the hatred being felt for
Republicans right now he could just save the GOP. If "we're not dittoheads" becomes the watchword of the New Republican Party then this could easily work in their favor.

Truly horrible if we let the new candidate start life as the Anti-Rush

What is evil to you?

Seems you have a problem recognizing it.

Rush didn't make himself into anything other then a successful talk-show host. It's Obama that wants to make him into a demgog.

In reality Obama intentionally made himself into a demagog.


Why is Rush so successful?

Rush provides something that is sorely lacking in today's political discourse; a voice of reason. Obama in typical totalitarian fashion wants to squash that.
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