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Old 03-06-2009
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

Another link showing Moore's taking a letter to the editor, changing the date and trying to pass it off as a news headline: MOOREWATCH - Watching Michael Moore's every move

So, Danny, what do you think - is this a lie, or is it just Moore displaying his "journalistic integrity"?

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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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True enough. The difference is, so far, the right-wing hacks aren't using their notoriety to launch a political career, like Al Frankin.
Not necessarily true (about the money that is). Franken will make significantly more money on his 180K senate salary than he ever made as a comedian.
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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In my eyes, that doesn't even qualify as artistic license or a simple bending of the truth. It's an outright fucking lie. I have no doubt, though, that you'll now submit some pathetically structured excuse to explain how that, somehow, isn't a lie...
This is why I said he could be misleading in the sense that the timeline of obtaining the gun might not be portrayed as accurate. This is not a lie by any means because the fact remains you can still get a gun by opening a bank account.
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This is why I said he could be misleading in the sense that the timeline of obtaining the gun might not be portrayed as accurate. This is not a lie by any means because the fact remains you can still get a gun by opening a bank account.
So how about the falsified "newspaper headline", Danny?

A lie, or do you have an excuse to make for it?

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This is why I said he could be misleading in the sense that the timeline of obtaining the gun might not be portrayed as accurate. This is not a lie by any means because the fact remains you can still get a gun by opening a bank account.

Completely false Danny. You have to get the gun through the same channels as anyone else. The fact remains that just opening an account does not get you a gun on any level you can fabricate. Besides the fact that you needed $5K to even have the opportunity was conveniently left out just smacks of typical Moore dishonesty.
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Not necessarily true (about the money that is). Franken will make significantly more money on his 180K senate salary than he ever made as a comedian.
I'm assuming when he worked for Air America he made more than the Senate Salary he might get...not the millions that Rush and Sean make though.

Though they at least pay taxes on their money.
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

wow it is amazing to watch people try to defend moore. I mean really ???
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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wow it is amazing to watch people try to defend moore. I mean really ???
well nobody's even bothering to try and defend limbaugh or coulter, i've noticed.
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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So how about the falsified "newspaper headline", Danny?

A lie, or do you have an excuse to make for it?

Matt
I made the thread to gather different view points on a topic I had thought of so I will read your post and report back. Should it be credible and for the first time demonstrate an outright lie by Michale Moore I'll adjust my position accordingly (something that I must admit I never see anyone else doing).



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wow it is amazing to watch people try to defend moore. I mean really ???
I've disproved your post that Moore lied. I admit it can be misleading but its all in how you interpret it. Moore never says anything that is factually inaccurate but leaving out facts that might help the situation be put into perspective qualifies him to be a top level hack. I'll concede this.
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well nobody's even bothering to try and defend limbaugh or coulter, i've noticed.
why would they, they are like all the lefts hacks

that is the point of most of this argument ( I see you have missed it) that people actually believe that the left hacks are journalists
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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As for Moore lying, Danny: Michael Moore : EXPOSED!

Pay attention to the supposed newspaper article Moore outright fabricated.

Not that I expect youl'll read it, but there is it.

Matt

That's quite dishonest. He took a letter to the editor about how the recount showed Gore won and changed the font to make it look like a title to an article. Its very misleading but I'd have to watch the film again to see if he actually said "the paper reported that..." or if the image just flashed on the screen during the movie in which case I think we are grasping for straws here.
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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That's quite dishonest. He took a letter to the editor about how the recount showed Gore won and changed the font to make it look like a title to an article. Its very misleading but I'd have to watch the film again to see if he actually said "the paper reported that..." or if the image just flashed on the screen during the movie in which case I think we are grasping for straws here.
He did more that "change the font". He changed the entire representation of the piece. The picture from Moore's movie (which is right there on the page I linked) clearly presents the title of the opinion letter as a newspaper headline.

Regardless of whether Moore says anything, the image is a fabrication. The headline never ran in the paper. The article he shows a picture of never existed.

Moore lied.

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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

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why would they, they are like all the lefts hacks

that is the point of most of this argument ( I see you have missed it) that people actually believe that the left hacks are journalists
people? like who? and it'd be interesting to find out who gets more media coverage. i couldn't tell you the last time i saw moore on the news but i can't turn around without seeing limbaugh or coulter. they definitely get treated as though they were serious commentators so i'm not sure where you're coming from with this.
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

Michael Moore exposes a lot of hidden truths.

Bill-O Da Klown is a sneaky summabatch, I watch him every day and kinda-sorta APPEARS to be sane and balanced, but his lies and innuendos are subtle. He's a liar of the worse kind.

Sean Hannity...worse.

Rush Limbaugh...doesn't even need commenting.

The Far-Right Lunatic Fringers are straight up liars.
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Re: Who do you find has more dishonest hacks? The left or the right?

Michael Moore is a fat lying liar who lies.

The Far-Left Lunatic Fringers are straight-up liars.
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