It's a fundamental question of whether the values are right or wrong.

Whether or not promoter is strong enough to live up to them is ultimately of consequence only to them.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

If you stand for nothing that have to live up to, right?

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Such a cop out. If you have values you live by them, period. And as a parent you do instill your values on your children, but they follow your example. So if you say one thing but do another, they're going to disregard what you say.

I have no problem with premarital sex, I had lots of it. Hell I wouldn't have found my wife if I hadn't had premarital sex.

And the word is espouse, not expouse.

Children rebel against parents, primarily for a couple of reasons. 1) The parents don't live up to rules they impose on their children (doing other than what they say. 2) The parents impose unrealistic limits on their growth and development.

Either you have values and you live by them, or you trumpet values for political gain. And if life throws you a curve ball that smacks your values upside the head, then you probably need to modify your values.

Why anyone would look to politicians to validate or champion their own values, is just naive, in my opinion. I don't want politicians who impose personal behavior.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

the problem with 'family values' candidates to me is not whether or not they espouse those values in their lives, it is typically for their lack of policy proposals to accompany their 'values' that turns me off. "Family values" is emotional and superficial political pandering if the candidate cannot provide a coherent policy platform to accompany these 'values.' (images they are trying to score points on) read sarah palin.

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I don't know AA. I'm not sure that it's all that black and white. I grew up with a sister. We are only a year and a half apart. I pretty much did everything my parents told me to do. I got in trouble every once in a while but my sister was outright deceitful. She would tell our dad that she was going to church just so she could have the car. He caught her when, after a few months, he noticed the checks he gave her for the church were never cashed. In know, right? Duh. And that is just one example. She used to sneak out at night also. So we had two kids with the same parents, treated the same...well, I was the favorite, still am ...but in our childhood, had very different views with respect to proper behavior.

Totally agreed. Unfortunately, they do it on both sides of the aisle.

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"If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine," he said. "It's the post office that's always having problems." Barack Obama on government run healthcare. 08/11/2009

American by birth.
Conservative by the grace of God.

Still sore about the war of northern aggression.

False. No one lives up to even their own values. Everyone has done something they are ashamed of. Everyone has done many things they know to be wrong. There is not one person that has lived up to even their own values.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

a "D" after their name

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Speak for yourself. You're just making excuses for the false prophets, and hypocrites the sheeple worship as moral champions.

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

Nothing is ever black & white. I take it you're a man? Right there that makes a difference. I have 2 daughters, 3 & 5, the 3 year old is a better artist already, then I recently found out my 5 year old was almost blind in 1 eye, after she told me she couldn't see out of "this" eye. I just wish we were able to catch her condition earlier. I only sited 2 very general causes, I'm sure there are as many reasons why we rebel, as there are people. When I rebelled it wasn't as much against my parents, as it was against society.

And how do liberals impose personal behavior?

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"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

-Thomas Jefferson

Politicians and for that matter everyone else try to impose their moral values on the people around them.

They might do this deliberately or not, but if nothing else but example, people influence the moral values of those around them.

One can believe in whatever they want for themselves, but deserve attack when they try to impose their values on others when not necessary.

Abortion and sex are areas where is it wrong to impose on others, and attack is deserved.

WRONG!

In a democratic republic, it is essential to only legislate defense of individual rights, to be as free as possible.
Influencing others by example is not the same as legislating by force.
It is wrong to ever impose your values on other.
You are only justified if they are imposing on you, and you are acting in defense.

Some would say that legislating against abortion IS NOT legislating morality any more than legislating against murder is.

Or that legislating against homosexual marriage is no more legislating morality than bans on necrophilia, pedophilia, or prostitution.

Can a politician who has never had an abortion have any credible beliefs on the issue?

Can a politician who has never had extra marital sex have any credible beliefs on adultery?

Can a politician who has not raped and sacrificed a small herd of goats have any...

Well, you probably get my point...

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Gospel of Thomas

Right-Wingers really are adept at tap-dancing around an issue eh? I see you put your own parameters, read spin, on the issue...setting it up in a way that makes it seem folks are requiring perfection. Who said this? Noone.

Clearly this is an attempt to spin the Republicans into some innocent saints who are only human and are prone to fail at times inspite of their noble attempts. Nice try, but it just does not wash.

1.) The GOP is chuck full of members who have not served a single hour in service for the country in the military, in fact many who have went out of their way to escape doing that. I have posted links to websites detailing a host of them in the past.

2.) How many farmers are in the GOP?

3.) WTF.com?!?? Education is education? I believe the average person is at least vaguely familiar with the public school system.

4.) GWB, before he took office succesfully ran every. single. busines he was allowed to get his greasy hands on to the ground. That's a fact. How credible was he (in the beginning?)

5.) If a candidate has demonstrated a knowledge on the subject and is intellectually curious I don't see how they could have any problems there. Unlike Sarah Palin who could not cite ONE Supreme Court ruling that she found influential or interesting when asked about it, and this was after SHE HERSELF brought it up in one of her infamous platitudes.

I agree with your final statements, but I'm not sure how that supports your point.

Its not family values thats under attack Einstein. W As you can see, Barack Obama is THE BEST thing to happen to family values. He's the manifestation of a a great husband, father and friend. Loyal, caring , loving and faithful to his wife and children...clean as a whistle. So much so he kinda harkens back to 'Leave It To Beaver' What a guy! And as you can see America LOVES him for it, including the Democrats who you are FALSELY claiming have some gripe with family values. hen will you grow up and cut out the emotional pre-packaged outbursts?

Its really that simple.

Basically.