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Sunshine · #46 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

What do family values have to do with politics? Someone please explain.

This all really seems to have come about in the 70s or 80s. I simply don't recall in my younger years anyone running on a platform that included family values.

Dwight Eisenhower's platform:

WikiAnswers - What was Eisenhower's campaign platform

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i. Republican
ii. Conservative.
iii. Wanted a strong anticommunist stance in foreign affairs.
iv. Reduction on government regulation of the economy.
v. Lower Taxes for the wealthy.
vi. Resistance to federal civil rights legislation.
vii. Supported big and small businesses

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United States presidential election, 1972 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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George McGovern ran on a platform of ending the Vietnam War and instituting guaranteed minimum incomes for the nation's poor. His campaign was greatly crippled because of the electro-shock therapy controversy involving his original running mate, and because his views during the primaries had alienated many powerful Democrats. With McGovern's presence weakened by these factors, the Republicans successfully portrayed him as a half-crazy radical, and McGovern suffered a landslide defeat of 61%–38% to Nixon. McGovern won New York City, while Nixon carried the state of New York.

Richard Nixon, who has been called "the greatest school desegregator in American history" by historian Dean Kotlowski due to his compliance with a 1971 Supreme Court ruling mandating desegregation,[19] was in favor of desegregation but not through forced means such as busing.[20] Nixon ran a harsh[citation needed] campaign with an aggressive policy of keeping tabs on perceived enemies, and his campaign aides committed the Watergate burglary to steal Democratic Party information during the election.

I am just tired of hearing every time some two bit politician gets laid. Where did it all start? With Dan Quayle?

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The use of family values as a political term became widespread after a 1992 speech by Vice President Dan Quayle that attributed the Los Angeles riots to a breakdown of family values. Quayle specifically blamed the violence in L.A. as stemming from a decay of moral values and family structure in American society. In an aside, he cited the fictional title character in the television program Murphy Brown as an example of how popular culture contributes to this "poverty of values", saying: "[i]t doesn't help matters when primetime TV has Murphy Brown—a character who supposedly epitomizes today's intelligent, highly paid, professional woman—mocking the importance of fathers, by bearing a child alone, and calling it just another 'lifestyle choice'". Quayle drew a firestorm of criticism from feminist and liberal organizations, and was widely ridiculed by late-night talk show hosts for saying this. (In an interview years after the incident, Quayle said it was an off-hand remark and that he had no idea it would ignite such controversy, nor had he intended for it to. Ironically, the show's star Candice Bergen herself said in an interview after the show was cancelled that she agreed with him.) The "Murphy Brown speech" and the resulting media coverage damaged the Republican ticket in the 1992 presidential election and became one of the most memorable incidents of the 1992 campaign. Long after the outcry had ended, the comment continued to have an effect on US politics. Stephanie Coontz, a professor of family history and the author of several books and essays about the history of marriage, says that this brief remark by Quayle about Murphy Brown "kicked off more than a decade of outcries against the 'collapse of the family'".[8]

Others have used the phrase in such slogans as: Hate is not a family value. Jim Wallis, at the Sojourners Call for Renewal in 2006, titled his speech "Poverty is not a family value."[citation needed] Many Americans believe that access to health care and to education, and freedom from violence, are important family values

Knute · #47 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Steve

Only a complete fucking retard would consider me a Republican...

I know you arent referring to me because I did not call you that disgusting Repub thing. No one wants to be identified as one of those disgusting Grand Old Perverts anymore. No wonder you are so perturbed. I dont think there is much doubt , however, that you are anti-lib. That is what makes me vomit.

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It's funny, libs tend to forgive their politicians their trangressions, only because libs don't run on a "family values" platform.

Why do you think that is?

If Barack Obama was found fucking a nine year old boy on the Oval Office coffee table, libs would dismiss it because Obama never ran on a platform of not fucking nine year old boys on the Oval Office coffee table.

Libs would be accepting of that.

You people are sickening...

Knute · #48 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Sunshine

I am just tired of hearing every time some two bit politician gets laid. Where did it all start? With Dan Quayle?

Actually, in its current virulent form it started here:
BBC News | Clinton Scandal | Scandalous scoop breaks online

Sillyold lady RW men that they could nail Clinton for getting a Blowjob, but it backfired when everyone found out that they were bigger perverts than Bill- LMFAO!

Sunshine · #49 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Knute

Actually, in its current virulent form it started here:
BBC News | Clinton Scandal | Scandalous scoop breaks online

Sillyold lady RW men that they could nail Clinton for getting a Blowjob, but it backfired when everyone found out that they were bigger perverts than Bill- LMFAO!

Wherever it started, I'm flipping tired of hearing about the affairs. After having been to the middle east, not for one minute do I believe that Clinton's philandering did him/us any harm on the world scene. Frankly, I think most men of the world, who have had polygamy taken from them, were giving him the big ole thumbs up. As fat and old and I am, I could get laid any day, every day.

Sex is the life force. It is the strongest force on earth. People are going to screw. And having it splashed all over the news is nothing but a distraction from the real and important issues of the day.

Donkey_Left · #50 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Sunshine

Wherever it started, I'm flipping tired of hearing about the affairs. After having been to the middle east, not for one minute do I believe that Clinton's philandering did him/us any harm on the world scene. Frankly, I think most men of the world, who have had polygamy taken from them, were giving him the big ole thumbs up. As fat and old and I am, I could get laid any day, every day.

Sex is the life force. It is the strongest force on earth. People are going to screw. And having it splashed all over the news is nothing but a distraction from the real and important issues of the day.

Are you implicitly endorsing infidelity?

Steve · #51 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by John Drake

You can't be sure of that, because Barack Obama hasn't actually been CAUGHT fucking nine year old boys on the Oval Office Coffee Table, UNLIKE some conservatives who actually have been ARRESTED for trying to pick up anyone who was willing, including little boys if they'd been there, in a public bathroom, or PROVEN to be trying to pick up underage male Congressional pages.

Conservatives ARE accepting of that, proven fact; neither one of these guys went to jail, though what they did was clearly illegal, one is still in Congress.

You people are nauseating hypocrites.

Hear that big "whoosh" sound?

That was my point sailing over your head...

Steve · #52 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by John Drake

Just because I espouse Republican causes constantly and just accused all liberals of being pedophiles, that's no reason.

I'll tell you what I tell anyone else who is stupid enough to consider me a Republican: Go look up my posts in a thread discussing gay marriage or prayer in school, and get back to me...

Steve · #53 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Knute

I dont think there is much doubt , however, that you are anti-lib. That is what makes me vomit.

Well, then make sure you've had a good meal so you have something to hurl up.

If every lib on the planet died tomorrow, few tears would be shed...

Sunshine · #54 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Are you implicitly endorsing infidelity?

John Drake · #55 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Steve

Hear that big "whoosh" sound?

That was my point sailing over your head...

If you were being sarcastic then you're being too good at it, and it also doesn't fit with everything else you've ever posted here. Otherwise, what IS your point?

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Originally Posted by Steve

I'll tell you what I tell anyone else who is stupid enough to consider me a Republican: Go look up my posts in a thread discussing gay marriage or prayer in school, and get back to me...

So? You're not religious, so what?? You're still hard shell conservative.

jviehe · #56 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Sunshine

What do family values have to do with politics? Someone please explain.

This all really seems to have come about in the 70s or 80s. I simply don't recall in my younger years anyone running on a platform that included family values.

Dwight Eisenhower's platform:

WikiAnswers - What was Eisenhower's campaign platform

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United States presidential election, 1972 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am just tired of hearing every time some two bit politician gets laid. Where did it all start? With Dan Quayle?

You dont think people have always considered the character of a candidate when decided whether to vote for them?

John Drake · #57 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Sunshine

Wherever it started, I'm flipping tired of hearing about the affairs. After having been to the middle east, not for one minute do I believe that Clinton's philandering did him/us any harm on the world scene. Frankly, I think most men of the world, who have had polygamy taken from them, were giving him the big ole thumbs up. As fat and old and I am, I could get laid any day, every day.

Sex is the life force. It is the strongest force on earth. People are going to screw. And having it splashed all over the news is nothing but a distraction from the real and important issues of the day.

Mark Twain stated that when he ran for office his opponent hired small children to run up to him and tearfully shout "Daddy"

As used in the modern sense it's one of the latest incarnations of "Law and Order", a code phrase for someone so enslaved by the plutocracy he wants to come right out and support government oppression openly, "vote for me, I'll use a narrow minded morality and police power to keep the lower orders in their place."

Knute · #58 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Steve

Well, then make sure you've had a good meal so you have something to hurl up.

If every lib on the planet died tomorrow, few tears would be shed...

I am sure none would be shed by you. I for one cry with joy everytime a conservative dies either literally or figuratively like Palin

Steve · #59 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by John Drake

If you were being sarcastic then you're being too good at it, and it also doesn't fit with everything else you've ever posted here. Otherwise, what IS your point?

If it ever did happen, you would excuse the bevior...

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So? You're not religious, so what?? You're still hard shell conservative.

I'm really not. Take a look at any of those threads and see what the "hard shell conservatives" have to say about me. If they're not willing to count me among their ranks, then that's all that matters...

Knute · #60 (**permalink**) 07-12-2009

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Originally Posted by Sunshine

If that is really your pic, I volunteer!

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