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Re: Romney in 2012 and the Economy
Excellent post.
One of the things brought out by the health care debate is a passion by the public not seen since 9/11. As well as a distinct bull shit detector that Americans have always had, but unfortunately only bring out during a major crises. George Bush was elected due to 9/11. The next President will be elected because of this crises, and the one coming next year. You are absolutely dead on that it will be driven by fear, as was the election of 2004. And the one who can make people feel secure, is the next President.
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Paying off debt, keeping a home and finding a job are the focus now and will be for many years to come. "Change" is no longer the word of the moment. It seems to belong to another time. This has not happened since the generation that grew up during the Depression and fought WWII returned home and wanted stability above everything. This new pragmatism can have a very positive result -but the road there will be (and is) painful. |
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Americans lived in excess, bought $400,000 homes when they could only afford $100,000 homes...bought two new cars when the couldn't afford one...bought a 42" plasma and dropped it in a 10' x 10' living room...etc.. etc. etc. It was unsustainable. The next economy will and MUST be built on tangibility and not debt excess. You know Tim...I looooong for a candidate that dares to speak the truth to the American people....finally I think they are ready to listen.
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I notice that Romney got some brief but positive coverage of his health care plan in Massachusetts. Essentially a predecessor to Obama health care, minus the public option. I don't know if it works, but it is sort of a test ground for what to expect at the federal level. If it happens.
'Romney care' touted as a model for national health care reform - CNN.com I think he has obvious intentions to run in 2012, but it is way too early to tell. Andrew
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Romney cannot win because he touts Reganomics and conservative economic policies all the time. These policies cumulated into the crash of October 2008, demonstrating their ineffectiveness. A Republican touting these failed policies of deregulation and letting the private section run free is not going to get anywhere, especially a used car salesman like Romney.
People are also starting to see the light on health care as the current health model is also a consequence of letting the free market run free in a for profit system. The result: double the cost and the worst coverage.
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You say that like you actually believe it.
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He bashed Reagan until he was for him come 2008 to hustle gullible GOP voters (even voted for liberal Democrats as an independent given he didn't even want to be associated with the party until he ran as a 'second liberal Democrat' on the state GOP tickets as a means to advance himself). Romney on Reagan on Vimeo And once September hit and the crash, and if he was still in the race, I'm sure he would have flipped right back to Mitt's other side of the burger. Quote:
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As I wrote in reply to Danny above, Romney is just as bad with flip-flops on the economy and/or Reaganomics. There is simply no way whatsoever to tell what this person would actually do. And I believe he has no chance to get elected POTUS if the GOP nominates him for 2012 or any other time. He couldn't even win his own primary in 2008 as enough people started to figure out his chameleon character in addition to his 'resume inflation' lies (lifelong hunter, marched with King, etc), sleazy attacks on fellow GOP members with real issues and records, etc. Insofar as 2012, Romney is the ultimate 'own goal' by the GOP for the Dems, especially considering the GOP's overwhelming line of attack on Kerry as a flip flopper, and Kerry was really only across the map on one issue (the Iraq war) and a very complicated and factually ongoing one at the time to boot, not all issues. This is just a tiny taste of what would be coming on him: YouTube - NEW!!! Mitt Romney Never Flip-flops like Kerry Attack He'll be ridiculed into the ground, and there is an ocean of material to work with. It would make the GOP look grossly insincere on all issues and fronts to dare put up such an obvious fraud and turn its own past campaign themes back on them that cannot be defended in the breach given he is a complete chameleon. It would be a landslide loss, and deservedly so for having zero issues and character integrity to nominate him. And why would anyone who really believes in the staple GOP platforms want this person anyway? IMO, this guy really nails it: Quote:
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I think what we really need now is change. I am to the point that I would support a recall if a good enough reason could be found. The Letter below says it very well.
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I don't blame the NYT for not printing that. It's a clearly liberal paper IMO in its editorial members and ownership, but that's not something fit to print in any major paper.
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