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Re: NY-23 House Race (merger)

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Ah, and in Vitter's case, diapers.
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Re: NY-23 House Race (merger)

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No more pathetic than those who accept unsubstantiated rumor as gospel truth.
What makes you think it is unsubstantiated, other than your own ignorance?
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Re: NY-23 House Race (merger)

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No more pathetic than those who accept unsubstantiated rumor as gospel truth.
Its political opinion. The white house chose a lot of moderate republican districts to get certain nominees from. Supposedly in swing districts they could win. It was a story back before inauguration.
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Re: NY-23 House Race (merger)

Here's an interesting little tidbit: it looks like 95% of the cash Hoffman has raised has come from non-constituents.

NY-23: 95 Percent of Hoffman Cash From Out of District The Washington Independent
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What makes you think it is unsubstantiated, other than your own ignorance?
Perhaps they did, maybe we'll find out in 30 years when the documents declassify.
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Its political opinion. The white house chose a lot of moderate republican districts to get certain nominees from. Supposedly in swing districts they could win. It was a story back before inauguration.
Were any of those people underqualified for the positions they were appointed to?
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Were any of those people underqualified for the positions they were appointed to?
Pretty much everyone Obama nominated for any position was imo, so yes.

Judd Gregg - commerce
McHugh - secretary of army
Jim Leach - NEA
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Pretty much everyone Obama nominated for any position was imo, so yes.

Judd Gregg - commerce
McHugh - secretary of army
Jim Leach - NEA
IYO, who were some more qualified candidates who are Democrats that were passed over?
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Pretty much everyone Obama nominated for any position was imo, so yes.

Judd Gregg - commerce
McHugh - secretary of army
Jim Leach - NEA
Leach lost his seat before being appointed to anything. He was beaten by an unknown political neophyte.
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IYO, who were some more qualified candidates who are Democrats that were passed over?
Why does it have to be democrats? I would have hired people from the private sector who werent politicians.
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Leach lost his seat before being appointed to anything. He was beaten by an unknown political neophyte.
True. There were some Repulicans who turned Obama down as well because they knew what was going on.
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One of the underreported, and disgusting, aspects of this race has to do with why there is a race in this district at all. The former incumbent, a republican, was selected as Secretary of the Army. Now, it is reported (spun as political savy and genuous of Obama/Emmanuel) that this was done because Rahm figured this district could be a pickup in a special election.

Am I the only one who finds it a bit pathetic that the Obama administration is allowing such blatant partisan political considerations to play into their selection of an army secretary during wartime?
Is there a reason to believe the republican is unqualified?
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Re: NY-23 House Race (merger)

speaking of the rep's eating their own, an interesting article on rep's past idiocy......on the mark.


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“No one’s life is a waste,” a colleague wrote me in reaction to Dede Scozzafava’s withdrawal from the NY-23 congressional election. “You can always serve as a bad example.”


While we can certainly agree with this statement, it is about time we ask, how many bad examples does the Republican establishment need before it learns its lesson?

In 2004, strong support from the Republican establishment allowed liberal senator Arlen Specter to survive a Republican primary challenge from conservative congressman Pat Toomey by a minuscule margin.

The GOP continued to support Specter until he decided that it would be more convenient for him to simply become a Democrat. With a multitude of Senate bills now hinging on a single vote, one can only wonder where we would be had the Republican establishment not gone all out to defeat Toomey, a man whose name would have now been going hand-in-hand with that of Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn.

In 2006, the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) wholeheartedly catapulted itself into a Rhode Island Republican primary, where it spent $1.2 million on behalf of left-wing senator Lincoln Chafee and against his conservative opponent, Steve Laffey, while the Republican National Committee (RNC) deployed the 72-hour get-out-the-vote drive it usually saves for general elections against Democrats. At around the same time, conservative Virginia Senator George Allen lost reelection by a razor-thin margin, handing the Senate over to the Democrats. To say that all the resources wasted by the Republican establishment in Rhode Island would not have had a good chance of giving Allen an extra 0.2 percent of the vote in Virginia would be naïve, to say the least.

In incredible irony, conservatives who had contributed money both to Laffey and to the Republican Party (with the assumption that the money would be used to protect conservative policies against liberal ones) were now seeing their hard-earned cash fighting itself on the airwaves of Rhode Island. Chafee won the primary, lost the general election, and when he no longer needed the Republican establishment, he predictably left the Republican Party and endorsed Barack Obama for President.

It did not appear that the GOP leadership had learned its lesson by 2008, when the establishment backed incumbent congressman Wayne Gilchrest in a Maryland congressional race, although he had been ranked by the National Journal as the most liberal Republican that year. When he nonetheless lost to his conservative challenger, Andy Harris, Gilchrest proceeded to endorse the Democrat in the race, helping the latter beat Harris by less than 1 percent. Oh, and Gilchrest voted for Obama too. Boy, those party bosses sure know how to pick’em.

Jim Jeffords. Lincoln Chafee. Arlen Specter. Wayne Gilchrest. How many more bad examples do they need? How many RINOs does the Republican establishment need to support, over conservatives’ strenuous objections, before learning how untrustworthy and unreliable the fakers are, both legislatively and politically?




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Re: NY-23 House Race (merger)

Very satisfying to see the legions of teabaggers and 9/12 morons slapped down by the electorate. NY 23 voters broke with 100 years of tradition and chose a Democrat over the candidate endorsed by Glenn Beck.
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Very satisfying to see the legions of teabaggers and 9/12 morons slapped down by the electorate. NY 23 voters broke with 100 years of tradition and chose a Democrat over the candidate endorsed by Glenn Beck.
Youre a teagbagger.
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