shes seen as a Rhino, and is, and was, despite the GOP taking up her cause just to keep the seat an ( R ), early on they have slowly come around as the Con. party Hoffman has garnered endorsements and as a third party candidate now is neck and neck with the dem. challenger, in the heavily republican district. He announced ladst week that iof he wins he’ll caucus with republicans which I think has solidified his sppt. amongst rank and ffile Reps. in the district.....



Just confirmed that Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava has quit the race. Speaking to supporters, Scozzafava broke down in tears.

Scozzafava, the hand-picked choice of the New York state GOP in the key 23rd District special election, reportedly will throw her support to Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman.

Scozzafava's withdrawal came shortly after a new Siena College poll was released this morning, showing her in third place, with Hoffman neck-and neck with Democrat Bill Owens.


The Other McCain: NY23: SCOZZAFAVA QUITS! UPDATE: New poll shows Hoffman in dead heat with Democrat Owens

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In the end it's about whom they caucus with. I believe the Democrats have a couple of "independents" in congress, don't they? And you don't hear anybody celebrating that, because when it comes down to brass tacks, they're Democrats. (Except Lieberman; when it comes down to brass tacks he's a douchebag.)

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Good news for conservatives, assuming the Conservative Party candidate can now win. Newt Gingrich was backing the "R" as were other national Republicans, the polls may show Newt to pick his battles better in the future. And, I'm a Newt fan, but he clearly missed this one.

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Gee, I remember when democrats accused the Republicans of being a party of ridgid ideological purity, that was doomed to push itself into minority status for not accepting party members who are 100% in line with the party platform.

Hell, that very argument has been made about the party from the left over the split in the party between Scozzafava (who by all measures is less "republican" than the democrat in the race on the issues) and Hoffman.

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Speaking of Lieberman, if it had been a Nunn-Lieberman or Lieberman-Nunn ticket in 2000, I'd probably voted Dem for the first time since Carter's first run.

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Non sequiter to my post?

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Not at all, merely pointing out the irony of your obliviousness

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terrific news. NY-23 deserves a real choice.

RINOs beware.

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Republicans catch a BIG break in New York 23

Republicans catch a BIG break in New York 23 - First Read - msnbc.com


From NBC's Chuck Todd

As first reported by the Watertown Daily Times, the Republican nominee in the New York 23rd Congressional special election, Dede Scozzafava, announced this morning she's suspending her campaign. Her exit leaves Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman, who had garnered plenty of national GOP support, as the favorite to win what was a hotly-contested 3-way race. Republicans had feared that Hoffman and Scozzafava would split the Republican vote in this somewhat competitive district and hand the seat to Democrat Bill Owens. Former Republican Congressman John McHugh resigned his seat earlier this year after he was named by Pres. Obama to be the Secretary of the Army.

Democrats haven't held this seat since the 19th century but Obama did carry the 23rd District during the 2008 campaign. Local GOP leaders had named the more moderate Scozzafava the nominee over Hoffman as the makeup of the district led plenty of GOP strategists to believe they needed a moderate to carry the district. Hoffman decided to run as a Conservative Party candidate, something allowed in New York State, and national groups, like Club for Growth, weighed in big time.

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With the RINO out Hoffman should win easily over his Democrat challenger. Not being an admirer of the Republican Party, I hope Hoffman will continue to campaign and win as the candidate of the Conservative Party - Sulayman

Not sure how big a break it was, I think Hoffman had a decent chance of winning even in a three-way race.

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----Denny Crane

I think the point is--this shot a fire right over the bough of the Republican Party. If they're not going to give this party conservatives--then I expect to see a conservative 3rd party soon. After all--who do they think those tea party people are? They sure aren't liberal or moderate republicans--LOL.


I imagine the RNC took an awful lot of heat by backing Dede Scoffova--& now they have determined they will not be backing her.

theres a thread already folks..


http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/poli...e-ny-23-a.html

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Several conservatives backed Owen. The 1st one that came out for him was Sarah Palin--then a couple of more heavyweights in the Republican party. What surprised me--was that Newt Gingrich stuck with the rino simply because she had an R behind her name & was fearful--that a split party would solidify a democrat win. Newt was WRONG--Sarah Palin was RIGHT.

After all the tea parties & town hall meetings over the summer--one would think the RNC would get a CLUE. "Do not give us liberal or moderate republicans." This country is mad as hell & we want solid conservatives in the republican party. And if they can't give them to us--you can bet we will form a 3rd party in this country that will be the conservative party.

If we wanted Republicans to act & think like Democrats--we would vote for a democrat.

Newt's main argument, that you shouldn't second guess the local party was wrong on two accounts. First of all, he confuses the party establishment with the party. If Scozzafava had been the choice of the GOP party voters in a proper primary that would have been one thing, but she was not, she was the hand picked standard bearer of the local party establishment. Second, given the state of the party, arguing that we should defer to the party establishment which is a collection of people more concerned with their own seats first, and expanding the base second, is folly; especially given that Newt established himself and the party by bucking the party establishment back in the day.

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you know the deal, leibermans a shit because he didn't do EXACTLY as harry reid told him....its the big tent dude, can't you feel the love?....

Oh and Hoffman has announced he would and the gop said hes welcome to caucas with them....

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