Thread: Chris Matthews Refers to West Point as the Enemy Camp

Originally Posted by SamInTheSouth

Gee, what a guy.

YouTube - Chris Matthews calls West Point the "Enemy Camp"

By that, he probably meant hostile territory for an Obama speech. By that, I mean that it's possible that the speech was not likely to be received well by military thinkers.

Making some other kind of interpretation would cause me to violate Occam's razor and be intellectually dishonest...


What are the alternative interpretations of what Mathews said? Just curious...

Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

By that, he probably meant hostile territory for an Obama speech. By that, I mean that it's possible that the speech was not likely to be received well by military thinkers.

I know what he meant. It doesn't make the comment any less callous. Obama is Commander in Chief of the military. It's preposterous to refer to a military academy as enemy territory for the President and it's an insult to the intelligence and service of the cadets who attend there.

As much as I think Matthews is an idiot, I agree with Scout - he meant a rough audience...poor choice of words, but not how it sounds literally.

Originally Posted by SamInTheSouth

I know what he meant. It doesn't make the comment any less callous. Obama is Commander in Chief of the military. It's preposterous to refer to a military academy as enemy territory for the President and it's an insult to the intelligence and service of the cadets who attend there.

No. What's preposterous is to make this seem like a nefarious commentary by Mathews.....and what would be an insult to the intelligence and service of the cadets in attendance is to assume that they would be offended by the comment.

Chris Matthews is Chris Matthews........I wouldn't expect anything other than this type of commenting/reporting. He has O-jizz on his chin.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. He meant that the audience wouldn't be packed with ACORN and SEIU stooges. Of course, when they go on active duty, they will follow the orders from the Commander and Chief and those under him but when it was suggested that the cadets be enthusiastic they didn't measure up to ACORN or SEIU standards.

Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

No. What's preposterous is to make this seem like a nefarious commentary by Mathews.....and what would be an insult to the intelligence and service of the cadets in attendance is to assume that they would be offended by the comment.

Nobody is making it seem like a nefarious commentary by Matthews. It is a nefarious commentary by Matthews. As if somehow the cadets at West Point wouldn't give the President the respect of his position as CIC despite what their political views might be.

He's apologized

RealClearPolitics - Video - Matthews: I "Deeply Apologize" For Calling West Point The "Enemy Camp"

Originally Posted by SamInTheSouth

He's apologized

RealClearPolitics - Video - Matthews: I "Deeply Apologize" For Calling West Point The "Enemy Camp"

I'm glad he did, and it ought to be accepted and considered settled. His only misstep here was a poorly selected metaphor of something conceptually different and had no literal intent. To make more of it for spin purposes would be an intentionally plotted manipulation of the cadets which isn't anywhere near as excusable than a poor phrasing.

Originally Posted by SamInTheSouth

Nobody is making it seem like a nefarious commentary by Matthews. It is a nefarious commentary by Matthews. As if somehow the cadets at West Point wouldn't give the President the respect of his position as CIC despite what their political views might be.

They can follow his orders (and give him respect) and still be unsupporting as an audience. I figured all this comment means is that they won't be as enthusiastic and positive an audience as some other places the 0 has visited. Something like: they won't suck his dick (metaphorically) or anything, that's all.

Another con with no real issue making one up. Ho hum

Oh.... I see.... Matthews makes a comment like this and it is just taken out of context. He apologized and that makes everything ok.

A conservative speaks the truth about this assclown of a president and they need to be silenced.

Fuck liberals. And fuck Crissy Matthews.

I take him at his word, anyway. The US military is an enemy camp to progressives like Matthews and by extension Barack Obama who is as far to the left or farther than Matthews.