Thread: NBC poll--Tea Party more popular that the Democrat or Republican party.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Such willful ignorance charged to such blind hatred for Obama. No amount of reality will dissuade you from substituting you're own fantasy.

You missed the subject at hand in your rush to insult. What about the price of electricity at this guy's hands?

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

You missed the subject at hand in your rush to insult. What about the price of electricity at this guy's hands?

Our energy costs have gone down.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Our energy costs have gone down.

Try to be objective. This is what that clown proposes and this is how he thinks:

PolitiFact | Pence claims that Obama said energy costs will skyrocket with a cap-and-trade plan

Originally Posted by RRAHH

If this be the case, I don't see the Tea Party movement going anywhere. That's if the type of influence you're talking about is the type I'm thinking about. You're gonna have to clarify and elaborate a lot more on this. I don't want any misconceptions as to what their stances are on certain political issues.



Hm. I can agree with this but what we need are answers that take the government for the most part, out of the equation. 99% of today's problems don't need government intervention of any sort.



In the current parties in power, this is all there is. This is why I've been looking to a third party. I want to see the Republican and Democratic parties on their ass on the street and not in congress. Anything less is not going to cut it.



Well, if you clarify and elaborate on some of the points and topics, it will go a long way to understanding what the Tea Party is all about. I'd like to know if there is any continuity on any issues where everyone agrees on one solution or another and what those issues, if any, are.

Rrahh and Meadhallpirate.

I have been traveling on business and was not ignoring either of you. Once I return home to my office and get rid of a bit of jet-lag, we can re-engage over the Tea-party and Independent movements as I see them. I will be back home on Wed evening.

I appreciate your kind patience on this.

*rubs his knuckles into his eyes whilst fightin' off sleep*

mateys,

i found this while i was takin' a break from me evenin' readin' (House of Cards, a grippin' tale 'o real life pirates)...i thought it might interest them who has a curiosity 'bout the tea party movement.

It is a sprawling rebellion, but running through it is a narrative of impending tyranny. This narrative permeates Tea Party Web sites, Facebook pages, Twitter feeds and YouTube videos. It is a prominent theme of their favored media outlets and commentators, and it connects the disparate issues that preoccupy many Tea Party supporters — from the concern that the community organization Acorn is stealing elections to the belief that Mr. Obama is trying to control the Internet and restrict gun ownership.

WorldNetDaily.com trumpets “exclusives” reporting that the Army is seeking “Internment/Resettlement” specialists. On ResistNet.com, bloggers warn that Mr. Obama is trying to convert Interpol, the international police organization, into his personal police force. They call on “fellow Patriots” to “grab their guns.”

this grippin' article continues further with this...

Politicians courting the Tea Party movement are also alluding to Patriot dogma. At a Tea Party protest in Las Vegas, Joe Heck, a Republican running for Congress, blamed both the Democratic and Republican Parties for moving the country toward “socialistic tyranny.” In Texas, Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican seeking re-election, threw his support behind the state sovereignty movement. And in Indiana, Richard Behney, a Republican Senate candidate, told Tea Party supporters what he would do if the 2010 elections did not produce results to his liking: “I’m cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I’m serious about that, and I bet you are, too.”

Tea Party Movement Lights Fuse for Rebellion on Right - NYTimes.com

*sheathes his blade and holds up a conciliatory hand*

mateys, fer them who find that cause 'o the Tea Party movement sometin' that fills yer sails with a mighty wind...tell me, who be it that ye swabbies are plannin' to shoot? surely not fellow americans, aye?

i mean, firearms, even if they be used fer one's defense, be instruments used to kill folks...so who are ye prepared to kill?

*puts on his kevlar pirate hat, just in case...*

- MeadHallPirate

MHP,

There is an extreme end to the Tea Party. It's a pretty big canvas right now. It's also a fairly new movement and is still trying to find it's bearing. I really don't think it's about what the NYT article is trying to portray them. Let's get one fact out of the way first:

The NYT is a pretty far left media source. They barely have any credibility at all. The Tea Party is fairly right. Do you honestly thing that a source as left as the NYT is going to be even remotely honest about the Tea Parties? Hell, people think CNN is a moderate left source and I've seen them grossly misrepresent the Teabaggers.

The Tea Party is slowly finding it's direction and is distancing themselves from the extremists as they get more organized and gained more control. Good things can come out of nefarious beginnings. Hell, look at France today. They have a very rich culture and are good people (despite how fun it is for me to give them a hard time ). But damn if the French Revolution wasn't a disgusting time in history. It started out unorganized and w/o much of a direction. It slowly reigned in an produced what we have today. The Tea Party is a lesser extreme but of similar problems.

I'm not a Tea Party member but I understand what they are trying to do and I agree with many of the sentiments.

PS. I'll make sure that me an my Army buddies keep ya safe

Originally Posted by fishjoel

MHP,

There is an extreme end to the Tea Party. It's a pretty big canvas right now. It's also a fairly new movement and is still trying to find it's bearing. I really don't think it's about what the NYT article is trying to portray them. Let's get one fact out of the way first:

The NYT is a pretty far left media source. They barely have any credibility at all. The Tea Party is fairly right. Do you honestly thing that a source as left as the NYT is going to be even remotely honest about the Tea Parties? Hell, people think CNN is a moderate left source and I've seen them grossly misrepresent the Teabaggers.

The Tea Party is slowly finding it's direction and is distancing themselves from the extremists as they get more organized and gained more control. Good things can come out of nefarious beginnings. Hell, look at France today. They have a very rich culture and are good people (despite how fun it is for me to give them a hard time ). But damn if the French Revolution wasn't a disgusting time in history. It started out unorganized and w/o much of a direction. It slowly reigned in an produced what we have today. The Tea Party is a lesser extreme but of similar problems.

I'm not a Tea Party member but I understand what they are trying to do and I agree with many of the sentiments.

PS. I'll make sure that me an my Army buddies keep ya safe

*greets Fishjoel whilst makin' his way to works*

ahoy master Fishjoel!

matey, i don't really see the venerable New York Times as that much 'o a left wing source....its editorial pages, without a doubt (much in the same was the WSJ, which i also enjoys readin', seems relatively non partisan, but its editorial pages hew heavily to the right), but its "straight news" sections less so. the article i be quotin' be from the front page. at any rate, imma sure ye would agree with me that thar be numerous news sources and MSMs (whooo! that be the first time i ever used that term *flex*) that be to the left 'o the NYT.

the article itself be an overview to who and what the Tea Party be, and i think 'tis a rather good read. it echoes many of yer statements, actually, and seems like a rather fair and at times, sympathetic portrayal 'o the demographic that makes up the movement.

what the piece seeks to do is just find a common denominator fer the various factions 'o the movement. to that end, it quotes (remember, these be quotes, and literal ones at that...'tis not hyperbole) some 'o its "members" to help draw a picture 'o the rationale 'o them Tea Party folks.

imma just honestly curious what all this excitement has to do with citizens armin' themselves. i be assumin' that they be armin' themselves against the tyranny 'o the government, and....well...the US army be an arm 'o the government, aye?

i mean, who are these folks gettin' ready to shoot? i notice this theme come up even here on our forums, about citizens grabbin' thar firearms and gettin' ready to fight!

i asks again, who, precisely, are they gettin' ready to pump them bullets into?

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

I asks again, who, precisely, are they gettin' ready to pump them bullets into?

Liberal faggot crybabies, obviously.

Originally Posted by bg85

the tea party would never work as an actual political party because its members are too divided on issues like abortion, gay marriage, and other social issues.

The only thing that have in common is that they are pissed off about having a black president. They are really nothing more than a bunch of radicals whose bark is worse than their bite.

Originally Posted by TomBlaze

The only thing that have in common is that they are pissed off about having a black president. They are really nothing more than a bunch of radicals whose bark is worse than their bite.

Put a black conservative in the lead and you'll see how ignorant that comment is. What they're "pissed off" about is that liberalism is driving this country into the ground, and this "black president" is doing that at a pace that's never been seen before.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

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imma just honestly curious what all this excitement has to do with citizens armin' themselves. i be assumin' that they be armin' themselves against the tyranny 'o the government, and....well...the US army be an arm 'o the government, aye?

i mean, who are these folks gettin' ready to shoot? i notice this theme come up even here on our forums, about citizens grabbin' thar firearms and gettin' ready to fight!

i asks again, who, precisely, are they gettin' ready to pump them bullets into?

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

aye?

*cups his hands and yells from the ship's prow*

ahoyyyyyyYYYYYYYYYYyyyYYY!

last august, Catherine Crabill, a conservative candidate fer Virginia's 99th district house 'o delegates said this at a gatherin' o' them Tea Party folks...

Sounding more like Malcolm X than Patrick Henry, Virginia political candidate Catherine Crabill warned of armed insurrection during a Northern Neck "tea party" last month.
"We have a chance to fight this battle at the ballot box, before we have to resort to the bullet box," said Crabill, the Republican nominee for the 99th District seat in the House of Delegates.
"But that's the beauty of our Second Amendment right. . . . Our Second Amendment right was to guard against tyranny."

Williams: 'Bullet box' has no place in U.S. democracy | Richmond Times-Dispatch

this sentiment hath moved well beyond the "fringe" and, in me own view, be sailin' to the head 'o the fleet.
me question still stands...who are they preparin' to shoot?

our elected officials in washington?

the fbi?

the irs?

the united states national guard?

i see these folks in thar homes, thar picture windows ringed by sandbags...cans 'o sterno heatin' up single servings 'o Dinty Moore beef stew...spent rifle casings litterin' the carpet 'o thar livin' rooms, highlighted and dogeared copies 'o our constitution...but who are they holdin' off?

who is out thar that they need to be armed and ready to fend off?

Danny...JasonMarcel...and JohnDrake?

aye?

*sits ondeck scratchin' his noggin'*

- MeadHallPirate

Maybe they'll shoot each other and save us the grief?

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Maybe they'll shoot each other and save us the grief?

Who would "US" be?