Thread: NBC poll--Tea Party more popular that the Democrat or Republican party.

Originally Posted by smurf

Are you saying that violence is always wrong?

Isn't that what liberals ALWAYS say?

Originally Posted by fishjoel

MHP,

Don't worry your pretty little head. They won't be gunning for you even though you sail from the port side. That is, unless you raise your guns against them. The guns will be aimed at the government. Will they be aimed at the military? I doubt it much as, if the shit hits the fan, I think the vast majority of the military either won't join in the fight or will side with the reformers. I guess it mainly comes down to what happens in the future. If our economy crashes badly I think the shit is going to hit the fan. It will probably start out with states giving the federal gov the big middle finger and kicking them out of all things that are not expressly given to them by the Constitution. Then it will be in the federal government's court. How they respond to this repudiation will govern were it goes from there.

I'll tell you that if shots are fired and violence ensues en masse it will have started by the hands of the federal government.

*considers*

fishjoel, me wrasslin' friend!

imma not too worried that i'll get shot o'er anythin' in particular. that really be the least 'o me anxieties.

all i was askin', really, is whom exactly the Tea Party members are prepared to kill. yer response that the scoundrels that will fall to thar bullets shall be the elected officials who serve in our government....senators, mayors, governors and such, american citizens who were placed thar by the will 'o the people. i found yer answer interestin', and somewhat unexpected (though in the end, i don't know who else it might have been).

at a recent gatherin' 'o the Sandpoint Tea Party, a politically energized Tea Party member closed with this;

As the meeting ended, Carolyn L. Whaley, 76, held up her copy of the Constitution. She carries it everywhere, she explained, and she was prepared to lay down her life to protect it from the likes of Mr. Obama.

“I would not hesitate,” she said, perfectly calm.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/us...t=Search&scp=2

i give ye credit as the lone conservative voice here on USPO to man the oars fer a political movement resortin' to armed insurrection...killing fellow americans (and possibly men and women who serve in our military), basically. i think that even on a internet forum such as our fine port, thats a pretty radical stance, but i tip me cap to ye fer givin' an honest response.

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

i give ye credit as the lone conservative voice here on USPO to man the oars fer a political movement resortin' to armed insurrection...killing fellow americans (and possibly men and women who serve in our military), basically. i think that even on a internet forum such as our fine port, thats a pretty radical stance, but i tip me cap to ye fer givin' an honest response.

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

I don't think were are at the point yet. And, like is said, the first shots will be fired by the federal government, imo. Then it is the citizens who are actually defending themselves.

Don't forget how our country was founded, friend. It wasn't people sitting around legislating.

Regardless, I have stated, there are still fringe aspects to the aspects to the Tea Party movement. And that is what the NYT and like ilk are focusing on. The movement is already starting to crack down on that stuff. I simply don't trust your sources to be honest, despite your affirmation. Do you remember the story about the man who brought the "assault rifle" to one of Obama's town hall? I remember it being a fairly big story and there were pictures of the man with the gun slung over his back. The MSMs were going on and on about how there was a racial overtone to all of the gun toting. Well, it turned out that the man with the assault rifle was black and the MSMs had cropped the picture as tight as they could to focus on the rifle and cut out the man's skin color.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

I don't think were are at the point yet. And, like is said, the first shots will be fired by the federal government, imo. Then it is the citizens who are actually defending themselves.

Don't forget how our country was founded, friend. It wasn't people sitting around legislating.

Regardless, I have stated, there are still fringe aspects to the aspects to the Tea Party movement. And that is what the NYT and like ilk are focusing on. The movement is already starting to crack down on that stuff. I simply don't trust your sources to be honest, despite your affirmation. Do you remember the story about the man who brought the "assault rifle" to one of Obama's town hall? I remember it being a fairly big story and there were pictures of the man with the gun slung over his back. The MSMs were going on and on about how there was a racial overtone to all of the gun toting. Well, it turned out that the man with the assault rifle was black and the MSMs had cropped the picture as tight as they could to focus on the rifle and cut out the man's skin color.

It's like it always is with liberals. The New York Times is their Bible, the biggest left wing rag going. "All the news fit to distort". You notice they missed the woman the other day who killed several people, hardly a word. Why? She was a big obama supporter. Better to talk about one person in a million who uses bad judgement and try to damage what they consider to be the enemy, you know....the people who respect the Constitution.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

You notice they missed the woman the other day who killed several people, hardly a word. Why? She was a big obama supporter.

I'm guessing you read The New York Times often?

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

It's like it always is with liberals. The New York Times is their Bible, the biggest left wing rag going. "All the news fit to distort". You notice they missed the woman the other day who killed several people, hardly a word. Why? She was a big obama supporter.

Patently absurd, I dare say you don't have a shred of evidence to support such an asinine assertion.

Better to talk about one person in a million who uses bad judgement and try to damage what they consider to be the enemy, you know....the people who respect the Constitution.

What would be respect for the constitution ? In your opinion of couse.

Originally Posted by compote_tom

What would be respect for the constitution ? In your opinion of couse.

How about putting the Federal government back where it belongs Constitutionally for starters. You certainly don't find either political party interested in that.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

I'm guessing you read The New York Times often?

Why would I?

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

How about putting the Federal government back where it belongs Constitutionally for starters. You certainly don't find either political party interested in that.

That's is extremely vague, to the point of being meaningless. Please be more specific.

Originally Posted by compote_tom

That's is extremely vague, to the point of being meaningless. Please be more specific.

It's the federal government's duty, one of the few actually assigned duties, to protect our borders. They refuse. They pummel local agents who try to protect our border, and they absolutely refuse to adhere to the Constitution while they go about all manner of other nonsense that they have no authority to be doing. Start there.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

It's the federal government's duty, one of the few actually assigned duties, to protect our borders.

Chapter and verse in the Constitution. I live close to our Southern border, people come accross (immigration wasn't a big concern with the founding fathers) but we are in no danger of military attack.

They refuse. They pummel local agents who try to protect our border, and they absolutely refuse to adhere to the Constitution while they go about all manner of other nonsense that they have no authority to be doing. Start there.

Again vague drivel of absolutely no substance. What is it that they are doing that they have no authority to do?

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

Why would I?

I dunno, in order to make the statement that you made?

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

I dunno, in order to make the statement that you made?

Well I'd also state that I wouldn't jump off a building because that's a stupid idea. If I said THAT was a horrible idea would you ask for proof? I know all I need to know about the NY rag. Surely YOU don't think it's an objective news organization do you, or even close to being one?