Thread: Scott Brown turns tail & votes with Dems. on Stim bill Jr.

Originally Posted by jviehe

Funny, shouldnt it be you who is accusing him of hypocrasy? If we were defending him, you would also be attacking us.

"our team" - "their team" is a construct that doesn't apply to my political philosophy....and hypocrisy is not what I'm charging or pointing out.


Is it not extreme fundamentalism to cast someone aside who doesn't wholly adhere to the party doctrine?.....

Originally Posted by jviehe

Funny, shouldnt it be you who is accusing him of hypocrasy? If we were defending him, you would also be attacking us.

Kinda side note, and I'm sure I'm missing something. Aren't congressmen supposed to represent the interests of their states or districts? It appears to me they are expected more to knee-jerk to their parties. Even if they show their asses in or out of the process.

BTW hypocrisy seems to be the most misspelled word of the day.

LOL, a Massachussetts Republican that's more "liberal" than "conservative"! Gasp

Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

"our team" - "their team" is a construct that doesn't apply to my political philosophy....and hypocrisy is not what I'm charging or pointing out.


Is it not extreme fundamentalism to cast someone aside who doesn't wholly adhere to the party doctrine?.....

I seem to recall you calling out politicians who said one thing and did another. Shouldnt you be as fervant with Brown as with others? Shouldnt you be praising us for pointing out Browns hypocrasy? Wouldnt you likewise be criticizing us if we were defending Browns hypocrasy?

Originally Posted by compote_tom

Kinda side note, and I'm sure I'm missing something. Aren't congressmen supposed to represent the interests of their states or districts? It appears to me they are expected more to knee-jerk to their parties. Even if they show their asses in or out of the process.

BTW hypocrisy seems to be the most misspelled word of the day.

The way that they do that is by explaining how they would do this and then the people voting for them, thus express they support the particular person political philosophy. The person then uses their judgment to decide what is in the best interested of their state. Scott Brown campaigned on voting against unnecesary spending, and then promptly voted for unnecesary spending. Which would make him a hippokrit.

Originally Posted by jviehe

The way that they do that is by explaining how they would do this and then the people voting for them, thus express they support the particular person political philosophy. The person then uses their judgment to decide what is in the best interested of their state. Scott Brown campaigned on voting against unnecesary spending, and then promptly voted for unnecesary spending. Which would make him a hippokrit.

In your opinion. Maybe he had a different opinion, or mabe he's a hipokrytte. Just a thought.

Originally Posted by jviehe

The way that they do that is by explaining how they would do this and then the people voting for them, thus express they support the particular person political philosophy. The person then uses their judgment to decide what is in the best interested of their state. Scott Brown campaigned on voting against unnecesary spending, and then promptly voted for unnecesary spending. Which would make him a hippokrit.

what if he believes that the spending is necessary?

Originally Posted by jviehe

I seem to recall you calling out politicians who said one thing and did another. Shouldnt you be as fervant with Brown as with others? Shouldnt you be praising us for pointing out Browns hypocrasy? Wouldnt you likewise be criticizing us if we were defending Browns hypocrasy?

Turning it back to hypocrisy?

What did Brown do that was hypocritical? This is what it says on his senate campaign website in regard to the economy.

Issues | Brown for US Senate

Why I'm Running...
America is a great country but we also have some challenges that we need to solve if we're going to remain the world's superpower. The most important of our challenges is getting the U.S. economy moving again.

If he views a stimulus or a jobs bill as something that will get "the U.S. economy moving again", then he's just practicing what he preached.

Did he explicitly say that he would vote against any stimulus?

Originally Posted by Oreo

Right now, I can't imagine the millions of Americans that would like to get the money they sent to Scott Brown for his campaign in Mass--BACK.

He just signed off on Stimulus Bill Jr.--stating "well the bill wasn't perfect". Of course more money going to more road work & some tax cuts--in another government effort to bulster up the American economy--LOL.

In my opinion these policitians--both democrat & republican just don't get it. It's we the people that make the economy work--& no matter how much money they want to throw at "road & bridge work"--it certainly does not reach all sectors of our diverse economy as it did in the 1930's when we actually needed roads & bridges--LOL. In fact, I don't know anyone who works on roads & bridges--do you?

So more money wasted to stimulate our economy. If they would just start to "cut" government spending--it would "thrill" all of the private sector into actually stimulating the economy ourselves--like we have done for at least two centuries now. Scott Brown is just another "ignorant" politician--in my opinion & hasn't heard the news over the last year?

We the People of this country expect PERFECTION from our government & if we can't get it from our elected officials we will find someone else who can.

UPDATE 1-New U.S. senator helps Democrats advance jobs bill | Reuters

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Now up to 12 trillion & rising

I'm fairly certain I remember Scott Brown saying he would be an independent Senator and not a rubber stamp for his party, so I hardly see how he has gotten cowardly.

Furthermore, he didn't vote for the bill. He voted for cloture.

Scott Brown is lying already. Here's the evidence:

Only 12 days after his upset victory in Massachusetts, Republican Sen.-elect Scott Brown made his debut on the Sunday morning talk circuit.

He talked about health care, the war in Afghanistan and deficit reduction in an interview with Barbara Walters on the Jan. 31, 2010 episode of This Week.

Brown encouraged President Barack Obama to put a freeze on federal position hires and raises because, "as you know, federal employees are making twice as much as their private counterparts."

....We rate his claim False.

PolitiFact | In PolitiFact debut, Brown says federal jobs pay twice as much as private sector jobs

How dare he do what he judges best for the country rather than what the Republican leaders tell him to. Why, one would almost think Congresspeople were elected to think for themselves rather than be mindless party hacks.

Scott Brown represents Massachusetts, not Mississippi.
He's the only Republican in Congress from Massachusetts, and he knows he squeaked by in a fluke of an election.
He also should be pretty sure that the guy he sees in the mirror when he shaves isn't exactly presidential material, and so far he really likes being Senator.
He's not delusional, and for the record, Scott Brown was in favor of the Massachusetts Health reform bill that includes the individual mandate. He knows that in November of 2012 when he's up for re-election the playing field is going to be different, he'll face a good Democrat, who is a good campaigner. And he also knows that the populist anger that put him in the Senate is not a GOP Conservative groundswell that is overwhelming the Bay State, it was a perfect storm, an unlikely convergence of events that simply will not happen in 2012.

So he's doing what any Republican who wants to get re-elected in Massachusetts does, he votes with the Democrats on a whole lot of things. If he really likes being Senator, he might just switch parties.

Some of you people just don't get it. Spending $15 Billion in this jobs bill does one thing. It creates TEMPORARY jobs. The money has an end and once you spend what the bill gave you that's it. Thus, its temporary and even worse yet its a temporary fix for a much much larger problem. Now if you do the opposite and you stop this idiotic outrageous government spending and allow Free-Market Capitalism to do what its designed to do you create PERMANENT jobs. And besides all of that, we really just don't have the $15 billion to spend.

Oh wait i take that back, we can just print $15 billion more and pretend that it doesn't make the situation worse. /facepalm