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    A Pre-Election Message to Both Sides

    “Grim Democrats await huge House losses.” Quite a title isn’t it?

    They’re not waiting for this half as much as we are, of course: but they’re frantically counting up their likely losses, and in doing so are forecasting fifty to seventy.

    At this point, the consensus seems to be among a variety of remaining-nameless professional Democrats that everyone in the House within the margin of error is going to lose to the Republican nominee. These people are on the verge of watching a large percentage of their client list - and in many cases, friends and members of their social circle - be thrown out of work right in the middle of one of the most toxic employment environments in recent history. And they’ve been fighting it for a year and nothing worked.

    Now, some of you here (more of you, I suspect, than are willing to admit it) read the paragraphs above, read the article that it links to, and then started to feel… pity. Or empathy, because it happened to you in 2006 and 2008. Or merely a natural desire to not kick someone when they are down. And those are laudable impulses to have. But before you act on those impulses with regard to these professional Democrats, please remember this:

    • These people told their clients to say that you hate African-Americans.
    • These people told their clients to say that you hate gays.
    • These people told their clients to say that you hate women.
    • These people told their clients to say that you hate Muslims.
    • These people told their clients to say that you hate the poor.

    Shall I continue?

    • These people told their clients to say that you were fascists.
    • These people told their clients to say that you were theocrats.
    • These people told their clients to say that you were stupid.
    • These people told their clients to say that you were uneducated.
    • These people told their clients to say that you were hatemongers.
    • These people told their clients to say that you were insane.
    • These people told their clients to say that you were violent extremists.

    And now these professional Democrats are sad because they’re going to lose. Well, they deserve to lose. Because they’re bad people. And because the entire point of the United States of America is to make sure that bad people lose. So go vote on Tuesday, and make as many bad people as possible lose.

    Righteously.

    To those of my friends on the left… you go and vote as well… if you feel like it. You should go and vote… everyone should and I’ll not try and dissuade you. Though I’ll understand if you are just not up to the task. I know it’s hard to go and stand in line only to vote for folks… many of which are sure to lose. I’ve had to do it myself a time or two… so I understand.

    You should know this as well… Come Wednesday the nation will be a far different place. A better place… a much more conservative place. Your day in the sun, your 15 minutes are over. We are coming to take back our country and with the help of God that’s what we’ll be doing. And when we are done in Congress then we are coming after your Lord and Master. He will have to choose between moving right, making deals or losing his re-election. If he wants to fight, then by God he’ll have one… and we can add his name to the list of the un-employed.

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    Re: A Pre-Election Message to Both Sides

    I would ad a message to those to those who we send to Capital Hill, and those who send them.

    To the new class, you will stay in line, you will represent those who sent you, or you will join those who get pink slips tomorrow. More over, if you fail to hold up your principles this country will fall back into the clutches of those who would would destroy us.

    To the voters, you need to remember that this is just the first phase of the American Restoration. The incoming Congress, by design, will not solve all our problems. It took us over 80 years to get into this hole, it will take multiple election cycles, and the blood, sweat, and tears of millions of individuals to build up our families, communities, and nation to sustainable prosperity.

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    Re: A Pre-Election Message to Both Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Commodore View Post
    I would ad a message to those to those who we send to Capital Hill, and those who send them.

    To the new class, you will stay in line, you will represent those who sent you, or you will join those who get pink slips tomorrow. More over, if you fail to hold up your principles this country will fall back into the clutches of those who would would destroy us.

    To the voters, you need to remember that this is just the first phase of the American Restoration. The incoming Congress, by design, will not solve all our problems. It took us over 80 years to get into this hole, it will take multiple election cycles, and the blood, sweat, and tears of millions of individuals to build up our families, communities, and nation to sustainable prosperity.
    Wise words...

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    And how long do you think it will take this set of ass clowns to turn into what the GOP was in 2002, the biggest of the big government, pork barrel spenders in history, raking in bribe money, and heading out to Scotland for a round of golf with Jack Abramof at St. Andrews?
    Yeah, they learned their lesson so well....that will never happen again

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    So go vote on Tuesday, and make as many bad people as possible lose.
    It's interesting that to you, "bad people" seems to mean "those who say nasty things about me and make me feel sad."

    To me, at least in politics, "bad people" means people who enact legislation that makes most Americans poorer and worse off, gets us into wars we shouldn't be fighting, damages our environment, lowers our quality of life, promotes bigotry and intolerance against innocent people, and other things that actually matter. If they also call me naughty names, I can't really be bothered about that. There are more important things, it seems to me.

    But that's just me, of course. Maybe your priorities are different.

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    Re: A Pre-Election Message to Both Sides

    The Democrats sure did a fabulously terrible job, I can't disagree with you there. They deserve to be tossed out of DC. What I can't agree with is the idea that replacing politicians with more politicians is going to make any sort of real difference. The two parties act essentially the same when they're in power. I expect just more of the same crap that we've had for the past few decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragontalk View Post
    It's interesting that to you, "bad people" seems to mean "those who say nasty things about me and make me feel sad."

    To me, at least in politics, "bad people" means people who enact legislation that makes most Americans poorer and worse off, gets us into wars we shouldn't be fighting, damages our environment, lowers our quality of life, promotes bigotry and intolerance against innocent people, and other things that actually matter. If they also call me naughty names, I can't really be bothered about that. There are more important things, it seems to me.

    But that's just me, of course. Maybe your priorities are different.
    So you think both parties are composed of "bad people"?

    Cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    So you think both parties are composed of "bad people"?

    Cool
    Let's just say that both parties certainly include some bad people and not enough good ones.

    However, that doesn't make them equivalent. It just makes neither one ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    And how long do you think it will take this set of ass clowns to turn into what the GOP was in 2002, the biggest of the big government, pork barrel spenders in history, raking in bribe money, and heading out to Scotland for a round of golf with Jack Abramof at St. Andrews?
    Yeah, they learned their lesson so well....that will never happen again
    Um...you haven't been paying attention lately if you think the GOP in 2002 is the biggest of the big government pork barrel spenders in history.

    That would be the congresses of 2007 to 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    The Democrats sure did a fabulously terrible job, I can't disagree with you there. They deserve to be tossed out of DC. What I can't agree with is the idea that replacing politicians with more politicians is going to make any sort of real difference. The two parties act essentially the same when they're in power. I expect just more of the same crap that we've had for the past few decades.
    Absolutely.

    It's going to be more mindless yapping about one party's obstructionism of the other, more corporate welfare, more meaningless positioning, and ultimately the nation will lose.



    Clearly something we should all be celebrating.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    The Democrats sure did a fabulously terrible job, I can't disagree with you there. They deserve to be tossed out of DC. What I can't agree with is the idea that replacing politicians with more politicians is going to make any sort of real difference. The two parties act essentially the same when they're in power. I expect just more of the same crap that we've had for the past few decades.
    I wish I could disagree with any of this. But I can't.

    Sigh.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 9aces View Post
    Um...you haven't been paying attention lately if you think the GOP in 2002 is the biggest of the big government pork barrel spenders in history.

    That would be the congresses of 2007 to 2010.
    Your complete divorce from reality is noted

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    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    Your complete divorce from reality is noted


    and let this answer the question someone is bound to ask at some point:

    No, we can not all just get along.

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    Re: A Pre-Election Message to Both Sides

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragontalk View Post
    It's interesting that to you, "bad people" seems to mean "those who say nasty things about me and make me feel sad."

    To me, at least in politics, "bad people" means people who enact legislation that makes most Americans poorer and worse off, gets us into wars we shouldn't be fighting, damages our environment, lowers our quality of life, promotes bigotry and intolerance against innocent people, and other things that actually matter. If they also call me naughty names, I can't really be bothered about that. There are more important things, it seems to me.

    But that's just me, of course. Maybe your priorities are different.
    Just can't peel those partisan blinders off, can you?

    What's happening now is that a lot of people are trying to evict the political "class" that has grown. We are trying to get rid of the self serving and the downright corrupt. If the "best" we could come up with for head of state was a choice between McCain and Obama......suffice it to say that the time for change was well overdue 2 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post


    and let this answer the question someone is bound to ask at some point:

    No, we can not all just get along.
    Under the present circumstances, I certainly agree. But there's one thing to celebrate. So far at least, our civil war is peaceful, in the sense that we aren't actually shooting. Let's hope it stays that way.

    A bit more on what I said earlier. I'm getting the impression that a lot of what motivates Tea Party types is a feeling of being put-down and insulted, resentment of those who are perceived as "thinking they're better than I am." It's a resentment of corporate big shots and government officials, certainly, but also of anyone with a college education or a good knowledge of science or just an open mind and broad experience, lumping all of those together. The corporate big shots and those government officials who pander to their interests know that, too, and play on it.

    The OP was very revealing. It didn't say word one about what the Democrats actually did with their majorities in Congress in terms of passing legislation. It was all about "they say we're this, they say we're that, they say we're a bunch of ignorant racist homophobic chauvinistic yahoos, feel insulted and resentful."

    That's just not a good basis for making political decisions, and if you do make decisions on that basis -- well, you prove them right, that's all.

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