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    Wow.

    No, certainly I'm not a Communist. What I am is a liberal, a progressive. And it isn't the "far left" (like real Communists) who are disappointed in Obama; they never supported him in the first place, because he's not far left and never pretended to be. He DID however pretend to be a progressive, and so progressives are disappointed in him.

    Let me suggest something, and this is just for the sake of perspective, not because I agree with these nuts. I'm going to link a couple of far-left websites, one to a genuine Communist party, and the other to a Socialist party with Marxist leanings that doesn't call itself Communist.

    About the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA

    The Militant - a socialist newspaper - November 8, 2010 -- front page

    Now these are genuine far-leftists. There aren't a whole lot of them in the U.S. today, but there are some. I'm not a far-leftist, but I am left of center, certainly.

    I never expected Obama to be as progressive as I am or as my ideal president would be, because he didn't promise that and it's not realistic. What I did expect is that he would keep his promises and not be corrupted by the special interests. That's what I didn't see happening.
    I think anyone who wants government controlled health care is a communist. They just don't know it.

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    Re: Why the massacre?

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    I think anyone who wants government controlled health care is a communist. They just don't know it.
    I can live with that definition...

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    Re: Why the massacre?

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    I think anyone who wants government controlled health care is a communist. They just don't know it.
    So if your position is that the gov't should be in charge of overseeing every pregnancy through to a full term, does that make pro-life nutjobs communists?

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    So if your position is that the gov't should be in charge of overseeing every pregnancy through to a full term, does that make pro-life nutjobs communists?
    No, because they're not demanding that anyone else but the parties involved pay for it...

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    So most westernized nations except the USA are communist? Well, until last year when we became communist too...

    Holy shit the Marxists won, because when I find out I have multiple sclerosis, I can actually buy insurance out of my own fucking pocket under HCR.

    :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    So most westernized nations except the USA are communist? Well, until last year when we became communist too...

    Holy shit the Marxists won, because when I find out I have multiple sclerosis, I can actually buy insurance out of my own fucking pocket under HCR.

    :rolleyes:


    I pretty strongly suspect that conservatives who throw the word "Communist" around rarely know what that word means.

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    Re: Why the massacre?

    Quote Originally Posted by CDavidNeely View Post
    You might want to read your own sources:
    You may want to look at where you claimed there was a 5 to 1 or 10 to 1 spending spree in favor of Republicans. You have no proof of that, oh and nice cherry picking from what I posted, completely ignoring the overall big picture. I like how you picked Meg Whitman as a way to prove your point while completely ignoring nearly 200 million in union money going only to Democrats. Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alias View Post
    I think anyone who wants government controlled health care is a communist. They just don't know it.
    I think anyone who wants gov't controlled Armed Forces, for defense is also a COMMIE. They just don't know it. What we need are civilian militias, with the guns that civilians are allowed to own, and let them take a knife to a gunfight. A semi auto hunting rifle up against rockets, morters, and fully auto machine guns.

    Let's do the right thing and stop taking my tax money and funding a gov't controll military. Let's get rid of the defense budget. This just stinks too much of Communism and Socialism.

    Wait a minute! Could it be WE just want to fund programs that kill others, yet don't want to fund programs that SAVE Americans lives? Or is it that we just pick and choose which programs appear Communistic?

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    Re: Why the massacre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    I think anyone who wants gov't controlled Armed Forces, for defense is also a COMMIE. They just don't know it. What we need are civilian militias, with the guns that civilians are allowed to own, and let them take a knife to a gunfight. A semi auto hunting rifle up against rockets, morters, and fully auto machine guns.

    Let's do the right thing and stop taking my tax money and funding a gov't controll military. Let's get rid of the defense budget. This just stinks too much of Communism and Socialism.

    Wait a minute! Could it be WE just want to fund programs that kill others, yet don't want to fund programs that SAVE Americans lives? Or is it that we just pick and choose which programs appear Communistic?
    The problem there is that the Constitution provides for national defense, but not health care. FAIL
    I'm sick and tired of my brothers and sisters dying to preserve America's right to drive like assholes.

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    The problem there is that the Constitution provides for national defense, but not health care. FAIL
    SHHHHHHH.

    You'll fuck him all up with such common sense...

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    Re: Why the massacre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    SHHHHHHH.

    You'll fuck him all up with such common sense...
    He's done that quite well all on his own.
    I'm sick and tired of my brothers and sisters dying to preserve America's right to drive like assholes.

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    Re: Why the massacre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragontalk View Post


    I pretty strongly suspect that conservatives who throw the word "Communist" around rarely know what that word means.
    Communist?

    Shit, the conservatives around here struggle with the meaning of the word "a." Baby steps.

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    Re: Why the massacre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie S. View Post
    The problem there is that the Constitution provides for national defense, but not health care. FAIL
    Well there is that little bit that the congress's role is to provide for the general welfare. Was the Interstate Highway system that Ike got a commie plot? I think Ike would disagree with that, and he fought alongside the commies.

    I'd say the health of the citizenry, specifically the ability of people who are sick through no fault of their own to be able to get health insurance, would fall under the general welfare. For god's sake its not like the government is paying for everyone's healthcare. You still have to pay for it yourself. A commie system would mean that, 1) there is no government at all, 2) hospitals and doctors would charge nothing 3) the people seeking medical treatment would pay nothing.

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    Re: Why the massacre?

    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    Well there is that little bit that the congress's role is to provide for the general welfare. Was the Interstate Highway system that Ike got a commie plot? I think Ike would disagree with that, and he fought alongside the commies.

    I'd say the health of the citizenry, specifically the ability of people who are sick through no fault of their own to be able to get health insurance, would fall under the general welfare. For god's sake its not like the government is paying for everyone's healthcare. You still have to pay for it yourself. A commie system would mean that, 1) there is no government at all, 2) hospitals and doctors would charge nothing 3) the people seeking medical treatment would pay nothing.
    You do know "provide", and "compel" are two different words with two different meanings, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    specifically the ability of people who are sick through no fault of their own to be able to get health insurance, would fall under the general welfare.
    So you'd be willing to cast aside those who are sick as a result of drug abuse, alcoholism, HIV, and over-eating?

    Sounds like a good start...

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