Thread: Were Sarah Palin’s Remarks Appropriate?

Originally Posted by nestea

Yes I am. And don't pretend you don't know why people are refering to him like that. They want to make him look like a muslim. That pisses me off because firstly he is not and secondly it shows that people regard islam as something negativ.
As if it would be wrong to have a muslim president. Why shouldn't we have a muslim president? Or a jewish president? We are not a christian nation. The majority may be christian but not every American is.

It doesn't seem to bother B.O. to be referred to by his name, why does it bother you? YouTube - Inauguration: Barack Obama Sworn in As 44th President

It is a shame that many Americans regards islam as America's enemy. And this is mainly George W. Bush's fault.

Of course it is.....:rolleyes:

George W Bush made it clear, repeatedly, that Islam is not the enemy.

It's "Muslim" not "Muslin" see how that works? Now I've delt with the child inside of you....

Originally Posted by Crela2

The word You're means YOU ARE. The correct grammar is "I don't know what YOUR problem with that statement is." Brush up on your English.
My problem with that statement? I think Obama used poor judgment at times. His friendship with this guy and his church affiliation with that insane minister were examples of his poor judgment in personal relationships.
I admit that. It just showed extreme desperation to resort to his past (and limited) relationship with this man. I don't recall Obama resorting to calling McCain names or disparaging Palin. And, let's face it...he could have. She had a minister try to rid her of demons or some such 'witchery'...no one said anything about that. I had to look it up and saw her being 'healed' by this guy. Google it.
Dirty campaigning never works. He was elected..didn't work. All the name-calling, suggestions he was not an American, that he was a Muslin, AND the fact he was black...did NOT deter the American People. I don't think it will again. I think he will be re-elected. The Right is going to have to really resort to school-yard tactics of name-calling.like this guy who refers to our President as O.Hussein Obama. Childish. Desperate. Immature. The Right is going to have to do what they do best...call names, froth at the mouth with rabid hatred, weep, like Beck does, and become hysterical as Hannity does, OR slam fists on desks and turn red-faced from screaming as O'Reilly does. It is going to be a GREAT show. Whoever wins, it will be fun to watch them spew out their venom.

What's wrong with looking at someone's past relationships? I don't see the problem with that. The relationship with his pastor and church was more than a lapse. He went there for 20 years. Additionally, Obama didn't have anything on record to look too. He was so unknown and unvetted that there really wasn't much to go on. What I'm basically saying is that everyone that voted for him were fools because they voted for a talking head.

"The Right" will have plenty of things to ding Obama on now that he has a record. I also want to point out, for historical accuracy, that the group who brought the question of Obama's citizenship into question was Hillary Clinton's campaign. Anything else you want to be incorrect on?

Originally Posted by Crela2

You hate Obama so much that you show by your statement that you HOPE jobs will NOT come back. That is how deep your hatred goes. IF you wanted jobs to come back and things get better for Americans, you would have said something like "I hope jobs do come back...even if that means Obama will be re-elected." Because you SHOULD WANT the economy to thrive. I hated Bush so much that I would tremble when I heard him say NucULar...and yet, when I read what he did for Africa and AIDS, I commended him. If he had stopped the war in Iraq...or IF things had gotten better, I would have given him credit and been happy for our country. That is, I believe, the difference in Democrats and Republicans. Republicans hatred is so unflappable that they would rather have the entire country sink that to have Obama as President.

Of course, that's not what he said or even meant to imply. He just doesn't believe the current policies are going to bring a lasting recovery to the economy/jobs.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Unfortunately, I fear that hidden deep inside the unnecessary partisanship there is a grain of truth - there do seem to be some on the right who are so fixated on Obama's failing that they will work to ensure it happens, regardless of the long-term costs.

It's sad that you quoted that guy, Pram. His post was dishonest and everything he says is partisan spittle. I wouldn't want to see you jump on that train and not speak on these things honestly.

Originally Posted by Dick Martin

George W Bush made it clear, repeatedly, that Islam is not the enemy.

Are you leftists able to comprehend the concept of "authoritarian government?"

If I was president I'd light fire to the oil fields myself...

Regardless of its economic repercussions, we'll see bailout!!!

Gotta confront the reality that oil is shit and not needed at some point.

Of course Iran and every nation in the ME would attack us because they know they're sucking sand without oil......

Originally Posted by Mr.Nick

Are you leftists able to comprehend the concept of "authoritarian government?"

If I was president I'd light fire to the oil fields myself...

Regardless of its economic repercussions, we'll see bailout!!!

Gotta confront the reality that oil is shit and not needed at some point.

Of course Iran and every nation in the ME would attack us because they know they're sucking sand without oil......

Our unilateral and belligerent diplomacy of the Bush Presidency cost us dearly, and not just in the Middle East. It didn't further America's interest in any way what so ever.

I'll snip the English lesson.

Originally Posted by Crela2

My problem with that statement? I think Obama used poor judgment at times. His friendship with this guy and his church affiliation with that insane minister were examples of his poor judgment in personal relationships.

In other words

Originally Posted by Crela2

I admit that.

Obama had a relationship with a known terrorist and Palin NEVER called Obama a terrorists as you falsely claimed.

It just showed extreme desperation to resort to his past (and limited) relationship with this man.

These were not "past" relationships, nor were they limited. The title to Obama's book, Amazon.com: The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream (Vintage) (9780307455871): Barack Obama: Books, was from a sermon by Rev. Wright. He did not, as the phrase went at the time, ‘throw Wright under the bus’ until he had no choice.

I don't recall Obama resorting to calling McCain names or disparaging Palin.

Nor did either McCain or Palin resort to calling Obama names during the campaign or since.

And, let's face it...he could have. She had a minister try to rid her of demons or some such 'witchery'...no one said anything about that. I had to look it up and saw her being 'healed' by this guy. Google it.

:rolleyes: Oh the horror, Palin went to a faith healing service. But attending a church for 20 years lead by YouTube - BARACK OBAMA Pastor ANTI-AMERICAN Rev Jeremiah Wright Racism is written off as an example “of his poor judgment in personal relationships.” So, practicing and teaching the philosophy Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals is an example of what?

Dirty campaigning never works.

Please present the evidence that McCain and Palin engaged in “dirty campaigning.”

He was elected..didn't work. All the name-calling, suggestions he was not an American, that he was a Muslin,

Neither McCain or Palin suggested or implied or hinted that Obama was not an American or that he was a Muslim.

AND the fact he was black...did NOT deter the American People.

Like must Americans I judge a person on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

I don't think it will again. I think he will be re-elected.

It’s possible, depending on who runs on the other side, but considering that now Americans have learned what a poor president he is its unlikely.

The Right is going to have to really resort to school-yard tactics of name-calling.like this guy who refers to our President as O.Hussein Obama. Childish. Desperate. Immature.

Yes, it is a childish tactic to name-call the president by addressing Obama with his name.

The Right is going to have to do what they do best...call names, froth at the mouth with rabid hatred, weep, like Beck does, and become hysterical as Hannity does, OR slam fists on desks and turn red-faced from screaming as O'Reilly does. It is going to be a GREAT show. Whoever wins, it will be fun to watch them spew out their venom.

I keep asking. Please give specific examples of this alleged venom, rather than make vague generalizations.

I did not vote for Obama. Did I not because he was born in Kenya? No, because that is a falsehood. Obama was born in Hawaii. Did I not because he is a Muslim? No, because he has clearly stated he is a Christian, who attended a Christian church for 20 years. Granted that church promotes the radical philosophy of Black Liberation Theology, which I consider basically Marxism in Christian drag. Did I not because I believe Obama is a closet Marxist or Socialists? No, because he has stated clearly that he is a liberal-Progressive and the political philosophy he has expounded is clearly in line with that orientation. Did I not because he is black? I really could careless what color or ethnicity he is and as I said, I judge a person by the content of their character. So, why did I not vote for Obama. Because of the policies he promoted; the political philosophy he clings to; the Alinsky tactics he uses to push forward his agenda; his completely lack of experience in any kind of executive position; and because he has shown very poor judgment in who he has personal relationships. After two years do I regret not voting for Obama? Look around, are things better or worse than when he came into office? No regrets, at least not on my part. I know several who did vote for him and now question the wisdom of that action. I mean, what policy has he enacted or signed into law that has actually made life better?

Still his speech at the memorial service was pretty good.

tashi deleks,

M

Originally Posted by Dick Martin

Our unilateral and belligerent diplomacy of the Bush Presidency cost us dearly, and not just in the Middle East. It didn't further America's interest in any way what so ever.

You interested in promoting capitalism?

You interested in the Bill of Rights?

Originally Posted by Mr.Nick

You interested in promoting capitalism?

You interested in the Bill of Rights?

?? Please find some way to make this relevant to this thread so I will know what it is that is being discussed. To answer the specific questions asked, yes and yes, but I don't see how that is connected to this thread.

Originally Posted by Crela2

But, I also know he has a gang of Republicans to fight tooth and nail for everything decent that he wants.

:rolleyes: Up until the last election Obama and Co. controlled the government. Republicans had no teeth or nails to fight or stop any action that Obama, Reid, and Pelosi wanted to enact into law. After two years of Obama and six of the Pelosi-Reid power base the American people said, 'Ah ... this is not what we voted for.'

Your attempt to sound centrist and unbiased does not wash considering the rhetoric of your posts. Your a partisan, embrace it.

tashi deleks,

M

How about we can drill here, er better yet embrace alternative energy concepts.

Maybe only then will the islamofacist governments and theocracies realizes whats up...

Originally Posted by nestea

Why are you doing this?

By using his middle name I can demonstrate how irrational people are. The mere mention of his name makes them nuts.