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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by TomBlaze View Post
    Isn't that what the GOP wants to do now? Seems right in line with their message to me.
    The GOP thinks it's perfectly acceptable to kill children just because you "legally" can? Some of them do, but not most.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomBlaze View Post
    No because those people are already alive and conscious and not in fetal stage. Let me rephrase what I said earlier. A woman is the goddess of her body and therefore she can chose who lives to go on and who doesn't in that world.
    And if it means killing her child, you're fine with that. A human being is a human being, nothing more, and nothing less.

    Quote Originally Posted by TomBlaze View Post
    That is nothing more than assumptions. Distorted assumptions. Making it legal will actually make for harder for kids to get them. I read study on kids and alcohol and drugs and the primary reason why kids start smoking pot and doing other drugs is because they are EASIER to get than alcohol. It is not up to you or me to tell people what they can and cannot put into their bodies. Period. Most legal prescription medication is far more addictive and damaging than even heroin. Cigarettes are PROVEN to be more addictive than heroin yet it is legal because the good 'ol boys run that scam.

    Crime rates DROPPED after the repeal of prohibition. Conversely, crime SPIKED almost immediately after it was made illegal.
    I suppose that's why 40% of all violent crime today involves alcohol right?
    Quote Originally Posted by TomBlaze View Post
    I smoke pot. I have gainful employment. Pay my taxes and contributed to society and America with my stint in the Army (19D). I have no criminal record.

    There are millions like me. Tens of millions even. The key is education and moderation.
    And you're far less productive because you're a drug addict. Just like all the rest like you. You've deluded yourself into thinking that isn't the case.
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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by 9aces View Post
    No, just enabled those who did kill them.
    No children were killed.

    Pregnancies were terminated. No children died as a result.

    Words mean things.


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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Anyone read the book, Freakanomics?

    The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime:
    J. Donohue III AND S. Levitt

    "We offer evidence that legalized abortion has contributed significantly to recent crime reductions. Crime began to fall roughly eighteen years after abortion legalization. The five states that allowed abortion in 1970 experienced declines earlier than the rest of the nation, which legalized in 1973 with Roe v. Wade. States with high abortion rates in the 1970s and 1980s experienced greater crime reductions in the 1990s. In high abortion states, only arrests of those born after abortion legalization fall relative to low abortion states. Legalized abortion appears to account for as much as 50 percent of the recent drop in crime."

    http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levi...alized2001.pdf

    Not a perfect study by any means, but really interesting to think about.

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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    There is no reason to believe that these 30 million would be any different than the 310 million that are currently alive. Thus:

    Another 1.3 trillion in GDP.
    Another 25 million jobs
    Another 15 million college graduates

    Another 300,000 people in the top 1% of income.
    Another 30,000 doctors
    Another 150,000 engineers
    Another 110,000 lawyers (okay... not good...)
    Another 300,000 morons
    Another 300,000 geniuses
    OK, if we ignore all the actual evidence, and pretend we don't have any information, then you have a point.

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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by 9aces View Post
    The GOP thinks it's perfectly acceptable to kill children just because you "legally" can? Some of them do, but not most.



    And if it means killing her child, you're fine with that. A human being is a human being, nothing more, and nothing less.



    I suppose that's why 40% of all violent crime today involves alcohol right?


    And you're far less productive because you're a drug addict. Just like all the rest like you. You've deluded yourself into thinking that isn't the case.
    OK. SO you have proven yourself to be blindly ignorant and incapable of rational thought. You cry about killing a human yet all I see in the first trimester is a conglomeration of cells and woman goo that can be easily removed if the woman wants. Of course we an only see it your way. You have the moral high ground. Jesus saves right?

    Less productive. Buddy, I bet I get more done before 10am then you get done all week. I am at the top of my game. I also have a side business doing freelance branding and advertising work. I am an great shape for my age (though I could be better if I got out more).

    I am not a drug addict. Again this is your ignorance. You assume that one is an addict because they use a substance. Pot is no more a threat a human life than a banana.

    People like you should not be allowed to vote in my opinion. You refuse to see things any other way but your own and as such you vote for any criminal that plays into your hate and intolerance and this is what is killing society.

    Sadly, I support a free democracy so I have to tolerate your existence and your meddling in the affairs of rational people trying to make this country a better place for all not just the racist, sexist, homophobic, war-mongering, greedy, fanatical few.

    Luckily, I have faith in humanity not some petty God and hopefully humanity will find a way to make sure people like you stay in the super minority while we make the world a great place to live for everyone.

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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    No children were killed.

    Pregnancies were terminated. No children died as a result.

    Words mean things.
    Of course words mean things and you're playing with those meanings.
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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Of course words mean things and you're playing with those meanings.
    No, I'm not.

    No children were harmed during the termination of pregnancy procedures, since children, having already been born, cannot be aborted.

    Words mean things.


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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Of course words mean things and you're playing with those meanings.
    Which of these is the child, FJ?






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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    Which of these is the child, FJ?





    Interesting. I wonder what this is?



    I'll tell you what it is. It's a baby that is sucking it's thumb that many seem to think is quite fine to be bodily ripped apart. I mean, who really cares about this clump of cells, right? Everyone who is pro-choice is complicit in the dismembering of this baby.
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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    Which of these is the child, FJ?





    If I were a right-wing ideologue, I would demand the protection of the first two, and tell the third that he's on his own; bootstraps and all.


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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    No, I'm not.

    No children were harmed during the termination of pregnancy procedures, since children, having already been born, cannot be aborted.

    Words mean things.
    They do. Some meanings people put more value in. Like the meaning of life. You, obviously, don't value innocent life too highly.
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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    If I were a right-wing ideologue, I would demand the protection of the first two, and tell the third that he's on his own; bootstraps and all.
    If I was a left-wing ideologue I'd wish the 2nd one was bodily ripped to pieces so I wouldn't be inconvenienced.
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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Interesting. I wonder what this is?



    I'll tell you what it is. It's a baby that is sucking it's thumb that many seem to think is quite fine to be bodily ripped apart. I mean, who really cares about this clump of cells, right? Everyone who is pro-choice is complicit in the dismembering of this baby.
    Looks like an unborn fetus to me.


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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    They do. Some meanings people put more value in. Like the meaning of life. You, obviously, don't value innocent life too highly.
    You don't know what I value, so you can make ridiculous assumptions all you want.


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    Re: Santorum blames 'abortion culture' for problems with SS

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    No children were killed.

    Pregnancies were terminated. No children died as a result.

    Words mean things.
    Yes they do. A child is what was killed when the pregnancy was terminated, millions have been killed since Roe.

    Or are you going to try and argue that a human being can be defined as something else for no other reason than to kill them?

    See, what you never answer, is if that child killed as a result of a human being is not human, what species do they belong to?
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