Thread: South Carolina Debate Tonight

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

I like Dr. Ron Paul, but I wouldn't be so sure his economic prescription would help this country. Of course, I do disagree with him on economics, but his stance on civil liberties and our bloated defense budget is spot on.

That's the thing with Paul. His position on things like the Fed, DEA and defense budget are great but I think he would try to go too far in some other areas and while I would agree that some programs need to be cut, others are in dire need of reform to lessen the cost. I think he would take things over the edge trying to force broad sweeping changes without fully considering the social and financial impact it would have on the country.

I actually like the guy but I cannot be too sure he would make a good president. Add to that the fact that he is 76 so it gives me pause to think he would be able to handle the stresses of being president especially in today's tech-heavy environment where you have to literally jump through hoops at all hours of the day with massive issues being lobbed at you at a steady, unrelenting pace. With that said, one would have to seriously consider who his VP is. Because at 76 he is two years away from the average life expectancy so it is quite likely that he would not make it through his first term either by death or by a serious health problem that renders him unable to perform his duties.

YouTube - Republican Presidential Debate pt.5
Like this one...

T-Paw had a good explanation, and i like how he admits his mistakes.

Originally Posted by jviehe

You didnt say gay. But even if you wernt mistating your intentions, then insulting a political group by calling them gay would be offensive to gay people.

You know what, don't worry about me! I do not have to be anyone that I am not around my heterosexual friends nor around my gay friends.

They all know that I do not consider any part of being gay as an insult or a derogative statement.

Now, how would you call all the "artificial body language" these FINE (not!) candidates for presidency were displaying? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by TomBlaze

That's the thing with Paul. His position on things like the Fed, DEA and defense budget are great but I think he would try to go too far in some other areas and while I would agree that some programs need to be cut, others are in dire need of reform to lessen the cost. I think he would take things over the edge trying to force broad sweeping changes without fully considering the social and financial impact it would have on the country.

I actually like the guy but I cannot be too sure he would make a good president. Add to that the fact that he is 76 so it gives me pause to think he would be able to handle the stresses of being president especially in today's tech-heavy environment where you have to literally jump through hoops at all hours of the day with massive issues being lobbed at you at a steady, unrelenting pace. With that said, one would have to seriously consider who his VP is. Because at 76 he is two years away from the average life expectancy so it is quite likely that he would not make it through his first term either by death or by a serious health problem that renders him unable to perform his duties.

That's an interesting point and probably a point his opposition will use against him greatly. The age thing will definitely be a negative in his column or will be considered to be a negative anyway.

YouTube - Republican Presidential Debate pt.7

Closing statements./

What a real snoozer! The lack of any serious candidates, coupled with the swift collapse of the Ryan plan to privatize Medicare, cause me to think that the smart GOP money has concluded that Obama is unbeatable in 2012. Mitt appears to be positioning himself as the last man standing and to make the run and take one for the team in order to prevent catastrophic losses at the state and congressional levels which would result from the nomination of one of the screwball candidates.

Although the TEA Partiers will howl about socialism and the death of the Republic, the reality is that the Big Boys who pull the strings in the GOP are a lot happier with Obama, Geithner, Bernanke and Clinton than they are or would be with guys like Rand Paul or Jim DeMint. Obama is, in reality, a traditional Northern liberal Republican flying the Democratic flag. Wall St. is rolling in dough even if the middle class is not. As long as Obama is in the White House, labor, blacks and the left will remain frozen within a toothless Democratic Party.

The result is a field of stumble bum candidates gaming the GOP primary process for personal gain before Mitt steps into the the ring to take the fall. Very much business as usual over at the Yale Club.

Ron Paul was good like alway's, Cain had his moment's but there where times when what he said made me cringe. Gov Johnson seams like a really nice guy, I thank he was probley high during the debate, I think he is in way over his head, and whats up with the plug for his .com and him doing the little finger gun thing at the end lol. The other two well they might go further, cookie cuter republican candidate for the most part, willing to tow the party line and follow the money, weather its good for the people or not.

Originally Posted by buck84

In my opinion, in no particular order, Herman Cain, Ron Paul, & Rick Santorum were probably the better ones out of that particular group.

Who the fuck is Herman Cain?

He reminds me of that couple who crashed that White House state dinner a couple years ago.

Is he even a politician?

Good luck to him.

:rolleyes:

And Rick Santorum?

The same Rick Santorum who made his kids sleep with their stillborn sibling?

Good luck to him too.

Now Ron Paul I've a.) actually heard of and b.) haven't heard anything that makes me think he's batshit crazy.

So...one out of three that might have some small chance in hell of actually getting a nomination?

Republican Party FTL.

If by a slim chance ol Rick Santorum is the GOP nomie, I will vote for Obama (just lock his ass tight with a strong conservative house).

Santorum is a joke and will give all illegals amnesty. IIRC; he was also part blame for businesses leaving PA because of taxes.

WE NEED FRESH BLOOD, not the same old same old.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

You know what, don't worry about me! I do not have to be anyone that I am not around my heterosexual friends nor around my gay friends.

They all know that I do not consider any part of being gay as an insult or a derogative statement.

Now, how would you call all the "artificial body language" these FINE (not!) candidates for presidency were displaying? :rolleyes:

They obviously dont know you as you just used it derogitavely by your own statement.

Originally Posted by soot

Who the fuck is Herman Cain?

He reminds me of that couple who crashed that White House state dinner a couple years ago.

Is he even a politician?

Good luck to him.

:rolleyes:

And Rick Santorum?

The same Rick Santorum who made his kids sleep with their stillborn sibling?

Good luck to him too.

Now Ron Paul I've a.) actually heard of and b.) haven't heard anything that makes me think he's batshit crazy.

So...one out of three that might have some small chance in hell of actually getting a nomination?

Republican Party FTL.

Well to quote Herman Cain.

"America has consistently elected a politician to it's highest office...how's that working out for you?"

Originally Posted by 9aces

Well to quote Herman Cain.

"America has consistently elected a politician to it's highest office...how's that working out for you?"

Answer: Much, much better than electing an oil man.

Of the 5 candidates in the debate, Pawlenty was seen as the only viable one going in. It was his debate to lose.

The FOX News poll afterwards has showed that Herman Cain won the debate, while Rick Santorum finished second.

Ron Paul, however, raised close to $900,000 the day going into the debate, while he has raised well over $1 million since the debate. The others have raised pocket change.

So the big loser of the night was Pawlenty, while the big winner was Cain, who didn't hurt himself, even though his anti-intellectual stances on everything are pretty stupid.