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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Fascinating....in 2008 it was rural and suburban right wingers that were "bitter and clinging to their guns and bibles" but today it is the lefties who just can't seem to get past their bitterness while clinging to their hatred of hard working, caring, concerned, honest folks who happen to make a buck or two.
    ahoy Lutherf,

    matey...i don't know what yer talkin' about.

    have ye even read any 'o me posts? imma happy fer Mrs. Palin and i admire her business instincts. i haven't said anything critical 'o her regardin' how she hath handled her affairs. the lass hath made herself a fortune, and i salute her fer her canny management 'o her celebrity.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    ahoy Lutherf,

    matey...i don't know what yer talkin' about.

    have ye even read any 'o me posts? imma happy fer Mrs. Palin and i admire her business instincts. i haven't said anything critical 'o her, in how she hath handled her affairs.

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    There are a few who are pretty upset with Palin, but they are also pretty upset with the whole Republican destruction of the middle class.

    Most Democrats I know, however, give Sarah Palin full props for what she is doing. She is a great draw, she knows how to drive her followers, and she has more star power than almost any politician of the last 40 years.
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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    okay then
    She "RAN" from the last elected office she had. And is now a private citizen. So what rule is he breaking.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddox View Post
    If this had been Obama´s emails having been redacted in any way, we would have witnessed yet another Birhter-style movement coming into existence...
    We can already see that mentality developing here;

    Quote Originally Posted by wooyarn View Post
    That's true. Her attorneys had months to pull out any e-mails they wanted too.

    I have too wonder what did they pull out.

    Why did they go to all the trouble and expense to print them instead of just putting them on disks?
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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by wooyarn View Post
    She "RAN" from the last elected office she had. And is now a private citizen. So what rule is he breaking.
    Actually she left office because the baseless ethics complaints against her were going to cost the Alaskan taxpayers more than $50 million to defend. It was the act of someone who chose principles over position. If only the congressmen who chose to pursue the baseball steroids scandal while pissing away millions of US taxpayer dollars had the same devotion to their principles.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hell, even you can see it. I guarantee this is what much of the main stream media personnel say about her off the record.
    You "guarantee" it? With what? Do you have records, transcripts? What a self-serving statement.


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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Actually she left office because the baseless ethics complaints against her were going to cost the Alaskan taxpayers more than $50 million to defend. It was the act of someone who chose principles over position. If only the congressmen who chose to pursue the baseball steroids scandal while pissing away millions of US taxpayer dollars had the same devotion to their principles.
    What!?!?! Where on Earth did you ever come up with that crock of beans & franks?
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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Martin View Post
    There are a few who are pretty upset with Palin, but they are also pretty upset with the whole Republican destruction of the middle class.

    Most Democrats I know, however, give Sarah Palin full props for what she is doing. She is a great draw, she knows how to drive her followers, and she has more star power than almost any politician of the last 40 years.
    This is the other thing that fascinates me....why is "star power" considered a political asset? Wouldn't it make more sense to base ones opinions of a given politician on their effectiveness with regard to legislation and administration rather than on how much media face time they get ?

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Actually she left office because the baseless ethics complaints against her were going to cost the Alaskan taxpayers more than $50 million to defend. It was the act of someone who chose principles over position. If only the congressmen who chose to pursue the baseball steroids scandal while pissing away millions of US taxpayer dollars had the same devotion to their principles.
    Those ethics complaints wouldn't have been possible if Palin hadn't removed restrictions on what suits could be brought up. Palin wasn't trying to save anyone. She was buried under the problem she created. That's not admirable because it revealed her to be a quitter and an individual lacking in forsight.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    This is the other thing that fascinates me....why is "star power" considered a political asset? Wouldn't it make more sense to base ones opinions of a given politician on their effectiveness with regard to legislation and administration rather than on how much media face time they get ?
    She's a private citizen so "Star Power" fits her. She knows how to stir up a certain portion of our citizens. She does this very well, she makes lots of money doing it. A large part of that is to get the "Evil Media" talking about her.
    She does that very well also.

    There is a pattern to how she does things. She just had her buss tour, she rode that train for about 3 weeks. She will now sort of hide for about a month, maybe a little longer then come out again for her next payday. That's been her MO for awhile now.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by AjaxPress View Post
    Those ethics complaints wouldn't have been possible if Palin hadn't removed restrictions on what suits could be brought up. Palin wasn't trying to save anyone. She was buried under the problem she created. That's not admirable because it revealed her to be a quitter and an individual lacking in forsight.
    Yeah, she pushed for transparency in government and her political enemies chose to use that honorable and admirable action as a bludgeon against her personally.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    She isn't the one paying the media to follow her around and write about her. The right wingers aren't paying the media to follow her around. The media is doing that all on their own. If the media and the moonbats that feed the media simply ignored Palin then she wouldn't be raking in the bucks like she is.
    I completely agree with this, which is why I claim she's USING all of that to her financial advantage, which is smart on her part.

    At ~$100,000 per talk I could give a hell of a lot of talks before I'd get tired of it. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/02/...tion-luncheon/

    As far as being partisan....how so? There is a significant difference between having principles/holding to those principles and simply opposing shit because the other party proposed it. Palin hasn't strayed from her expressed principles at all and that certainly isn't a function of being "partisan".
    I don't see her adhering to most of her original principles. Since her VP nomination she has been taking the conservative right-wing viewpoint on almost every issue, from birtherism to cap and trade to taxes on corporation. In many cases on key issues her stance has flipflopped 180 degrees from her stance early on as Governor.
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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by wooyarn View Post
    She's a private citizen so "Star Power" fits her. She knows how to stir up a certain portion of our citizens. She does this very well, she makes lots of money doing it. A large part of that is to get the "Evil Media" talking about her.
    She does that very well also.

    There is a pattern to how she does things. She just had her buss tour, she rode that train for about 3 weeks. She will now sort of hide for about a month, maybe a little longer then come out again for her next payday. That's been her MO for awhile now.
    You're missing the point. Palin's "star power" is completely manufactured by the media. If, for example, she did the bus tour and the media ignored it then poof goes the star power....but the liberals in the media just won't let that happen because the liberals in the rest of the country can't get enough of hating on her.

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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by Jefe View Post
    You said "moonbats", lol.. nice horsie reference, too, sounds real folksy.

    So, do you think Palin is actually going to run for office at some point? Any office? Or is she just gonna keep doing what she's doing? Because right now, the only thing she seems to be doing is making money for herself.

    I don't fault her for making money, BTW, so save that criticism for others.
    Why is this such a burning question for you? What do you care what she does or does not do?
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    Re: About All Those Palin Emails…

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    You're missing the point. Palin's "star power" is completely manufactured by the media. If, for example, she did the bus tour and the media ignored it then poof goes the star power....but the liberals in the media just won't let that happen because the liberals in the rest of the country can't get enough of hating on her.
    Does Rush Limbaugh make millions because lefties hate him or because millions of conservatives like listening to him and therefore draw in advertising dollars? Conservative political messages are supported by rightwingers as much as they are derided by the leftwingers.

    I'd say Palin is more of a mixed bag than Limbaugh, in that some of her notoriety comes from the left as well as the right. However, I don't think in most cases its 'hate' driving the left, its more of the psychology of watching a train wreck or car crash. People are fascinated enough to slow down and stare. When I see a car crash I don't think hateful thoughts about the people involved in it ... but I still stare.
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