Re: Is Newt calling for Amnesty?
You are wrong, having taxes withheld does not necesarly require a SSN.
Originally Posted by wooyarn
From that you go to a sweeping generalization that there is SSN fraud ongoing and that only the illegal immigrants are doing it.
I work in Afghanistan for a US company. I am paid out of the US office in US dollars to my US bank account. Payroll was deducting federal and state taxes from my paycheques for a while. They deducted taxes for all the non US citizens for a period of time and about half the time do so for a new hire. I do not have a SSN Therefore your first assertion is not true.
From that you make a sweeping generalization about all illegal immigrants who report having taxes deducted from their paycheques.
Another equally possible explanation is that the employers who are illegally hiring the illegal immigrants arenot remitting the withheld taxes to the government. Perhaps the illegal employers are simply pocketing the money and getting even cheaper labour. Ever think of that or ever consider that it is also illegal to hire an illegal immigrant? Where is the ire and outcry about illegal employers?
A third explanation is that the worker may have simply made up a SSN and the employer never checked the SSN for validity. Remember when you used to buy a wallet and there was a fake SSN card in it? That was the actual SSN of a worker at the plant and at one time there were several tens of thousands (72,000 if memory serves) people using that number.
A fourth possible explanation is that the employer made up the SSN. My previous US employer sent me a W-2 form with what looked like a SSN in the SSN box. I checked it out and it was not a valid SSN (outside the allowable range).
Even if there was a SSN involved, a real one or not, there is nothing proving that the illegal immigrant was the one guilty of the fraud. It could be a simple mistake or fraud on the part of the illegal employer.
Your logic is unsound as are your conclusions based on faulty logic, bad assumptions and sweeping generalizations.
Last edited by RDK; 11-25-2011 at 08:14 PM.
I always find it strange that only reasonable people agree with me.