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Vice President
Actually, Paul has well over a 100 delegates and is in second place. You're confusing caucus straw polls with who is actually selecting delegates.Originally Posted by Sluggo
"The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes (admits his philosophy is not viable)
Secretary of State
I see it reported all over the place... 42 to 78 pledged, where are you getting your numbers putting Paul over 100? For unpledged I am seeing non from either source going to Paul.
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- Frustrated Independent
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people.” - Penn Jillette amazingly enough, and I agree.
Citizen
I think the number of delegates and number of pledged delegates can be very confusing. There are a lot more delegates who support Ron Paul, but are bound on the first ballot to vote in a certain way. If it goes to a brokered convention and those delegates are no longer bound then they can vote however they want. I'm mostly worried about how Paul will do in the winner take all states.
President
Who cares about Ron Paul's delegates?
He's in last place.
In the GOP rules, the nominee must win at least 5 contests.
How many wins does Ron Paul have?
Exacatigly...
Citizen
I've not heard that a person must win at least 5 contests according to the G.O.P. rules. Do you have a source because that's the first time I've heard that brought up. And even after the brokered convention rules are explained, you still don't see how it's relevant?
Citizen
To accept that he cant win.
Secretary of State
What do you have to back up that those delegates bound to other candidates really would rather support Ron Paul assuming a brokered convention?
- Frustrated Independent
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people.” - Penn Jillette amazingly enough, and I agree.
Citizen
My own eyewitness account and internal reports from the Ron Paul campaign.
For example in Nevada approximately 90% of the Delegates to the state convention are Ron Paul supporters. We get to vote on which delegates will be going to the National convention. Considering that we will be running the table at the state convention barring some sort of shenanigans, we well determine which delegates go to represent Nevada at the national convention.
Also the delegates from Missouri are completely unbound. Rick Santorum could have won with 90% of the vote, but if his people never volunteered to be delegates (and from my observation most people don't want to do it) then it doesn't matter at all. Rick Santorum may have done well with the votes, but his people weren't dedicated or informed enough to become delegates. Santorum vastly underperformed in the delegate count in Missouri. Americans often forget that we're a democratic Republic, i.e. they aren't voting for the candidates directly but representatives.
EDIT: It's a very difficult uphill battle, especially considering the establishment support Romney maintains. In primaries the people who go to the national convention are essentially appointed by the party. So unless Paul has some insiders in the state parties it's a rough road in primary states. However in the Caucus states, it's all regular people and volunteers. Theoretically party insiders should have little say in who goes to the national convention.
Vice President
The Republican nomination, yes.
"The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes (admits his philosophy is not viable)
Secretary of State
He cant win the presidency. How do I know this????/ Cause he cant even win the republican Nomination and that is full of people that are more like him than any other mass of people....Yes and that even includes the american hating liberals and Anti War Jew hating progressives.
Moderates are not republicans
Secretary of Defense
Nope. People are sheep. They'll fall in line with the R nominee no matter who it is just to "get Obama out". I don't have to count on anything, they just will. Plus, I'm not asking anyone to do anything. If they don't want to vote for a Paul nominee, they certainly don't have to. But most Republicans would because only their "Team" means anything to them, just as long as their guy wins.
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"
--R.P.
Citizen
Not what I meant.
Vice President
Then be more specific.
"The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes (admits his philosophy is not viable)
Citizen
Be less evasive.
Vice President
Right, he doesn't do as well with old Republicans and that makes up the biggest voting block of the Republican party. He beats every other candidate Republican among independents and Democrats. Basically, the rest of the candidates can do really well in the Republican primaries but that's not going to keep them from losing in the general election.
"The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes (admits his philosophy is not viable)
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