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    Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps aside)!

    Popular, young and strong on Values, dynamic Senator Rick Santorum wins, with a large, absolute Majority of Votes, against the Unpopular, old and flip-flop Millionaire Mitt Romney, if Gingrich (who has lost in too many States), at last, steps aside, recent Polls reveal :



    F.ex., the Front Runner among Conservatives, Santorum, could crush Romney, with 55 % against only 33 % respectively, if Gingrich stepped aside, i.e. with a Winning margin up to + 21%, according to the latest Luisiana Polls by Magelan Strategies BR, of the 19 of March. Oherwise, (i.e. if Gingrich insists to Divide the Conservatives), Santorum again Wins against Romney there, but with a margin of 13% (37 % - 24%).

    Nationwide, Conservatives Santorum and Gingrich already have 1 Million Votes more than Romney (with about 5 Millions against only 4, respectively), added to more than 1 Million also of Paul's.

    More than 61 % of Gingrich Voters, when he steps down, prefer to vote for Santorum, while only 22 % would go to Romney, reveal f.ex. the same Polls.



    Until now :

    + Santorum Won in 10 (Ten) States, while Gingrich only in 2 (two).

    + Santorum has got 246 Delegates, compared to only 141 for Gingrich.

    + Santorum has won about + 600.000 more Votes than Gingrich.

    >>> With Santorum US President, Gingrich could become a good Vice-President, or State Secretary, etc.

    => United together, the Conservatives, (who already are a Majority in Votes : See above), could OBVIOUSLY also WIN the GOP 2012 Presidential Nomination, crushing Romney easily.

    On the contrary, if Gingrich insists to Divide the Conservatives, he would be alone to bear the grave Responsibility, if, eventually, a MINORITY candidate, as Romney, might, perhaps, usurpate, at the end, a nomination that he obviously does not deserve, contrary to elementary Democratic Principles.
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    And why is any of this important? Romney is going to with the nomination. Get over it.

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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Even if Santorum did win 55% of all remaining delegates (starting today!), he still wouldn't be able to win the nomination. At best he and Romney would both go into the convention roughly tied but still short of the mark.
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    What makes Santorum more conservative than Romney? he's certainly not more conservative on the economy. Do conservatives really want to elect another social issues crusader who won't cut spending?
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by Dilettante View Post
    ....Santorum.... and Romney would both go into the convention roughly tied but still short of the mark.
    An "open" GOP Convention is, indeed, one possibility, ... among many others...

    For the moment, the Santorum-led Challengers of Romney, have almost got a 4 to 5 proportion on Delegates, with about 450 to 550 respectively, out of 1.444 needed for anyone to win, and (most important for a Democracy), the "Conservatives" Santorum/Gingrich have won, until now, a crystal-clear MAJORITY of VOTES, with +1 Million Votes more than Romney, (to which might be added Paul's another Million, i.e. 6 Millions of Votes against only 4).

    => Nobody could claim to impose himself AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE's democratically expressed will !





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    Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube

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    Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps aside)

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    And why is any of this important? Romney is going to with the nomination. Get over it.
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    And why is any of this important? Romney is going to with the nomination. Get over it.
    By violating even elementary Democracy, against American People's will, as already democratically expressed with so many Votes ?

    Are you kidding ?

    Which sly Lobby, and for what real reason, would try to abolish Democracy in America and turn it into an Unpopular Millionaire's manipulated and/or so obviously oppressed Slave ?

    ROMNEY IS a MINORITY ! The Conservatives, led by Santorum, followed by Gingrich, etc., have already got at least + 1 MILLION VOTES MORE ! (5 Millions, to which could be added another 1 Million : that of Paul's, i.e. some 6 Millions of Votes, compared with only about 4 Millions for the unpopular, flip-flop, old Millionaire Romney).

    Despite Romney obviously cheating (f.ex. in Ohio/Illinois), and despite of a lot of Money that he notoriously Wasted, nevertheless, even Divided until now, the Santorum-led Challengers of Romney, have almost got a 4 to 5 proportion on Delegates, with about 450 to 550 respectively, (and all Polls give Santorum a Win also at Texas, which has 155 Delegates more !), out of 1.444 needed for anyone to win the race before Tamba's Conference on August, (i.e. a long, long road ahead)..

    - Romney has completely LOST, at more than SIX (6) Big Mainland States, where he Fell Down LAST (Lower than Gingrich or even Paul !) : Minnesota, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Alabama, Mississipi.

    On the contrary, Santorum NEVER fell so low
    , (with the only Controversial "Exception" of Virginia, just because Bureaucrates Hindered him even to participate there, as well as Gingrich !)...

    => Nobody could claim to impose himself AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE's democratically expressed will !

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    Rick Santorum, A Message - YouTube

    "I don't run just in order to win this Election. What I want is to revive the American Dream !"
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    Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube

    "There is Hope for our Nation again ! "
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocram View Post
    An "open" GOP Convention is, indeed, one possibility, ... among many others...

    For the moment, the Santorum-led Challengers of Romney, have almost got a 4 to 5 proportion on Delegates, with about 450 to 550 respectively, out of 1.444 needed for anyone to win, and (most important for a Democracy), the "Conservatives" Santorum/Gingrich have won, until now, a crystal-clear MAJORITY of VOTES, with +1 Million Votes more than Romney, (to which might be added Paul's another Million, i.e. 6 Millions of Votes against only 4).

    => Nobody could claim to impose himself AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE's democratically expressed will !





    Rick Santorum, A Message - YouTube

    "I don't run just in order to win this Election. What I want is to revive the American Dream !"

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    Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube


    "There is Hope for our Nation again ! "
    We don't live in a Democracy, we live in a Federal REPUBLIC. Now go look up what that means. In the mean time, I figure I'll let you know that your boy Santorum is getting spanked in Missouri today with Ron Paul taking several large caucuses and getting most of the state delegates. Looks like your boy got shut out

    Oh and how did you like that Santorum endorsement of Romney as a true conservative just 4 years ago?
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocram View Post
    By violating even elementary Democracy, against American People's will, as already democratically expressed with so many Votes ?

    Are you kidding ?

    Which sly Lobby, and for what real reason, would try to abolish Democracy in America and turn it into an Unpopular Millionaire's manipulated and/or so obviously oppressed Slave ?

    ROMNEY IS a MINORITY ! The Conservatives, led by Santorum, followed by Gingrich, etc., have already got at least + 1 MILLION VOTES MORE ! (5 Millions, to which could be added another 1 Million : that of Paul's, i.e. some 6 Millions of Votes, compared with only about 4 Millions for the unpopular, flip-flop, old Millionaire Romney).

    Despite Romney obviously cheating (f.ex. in Ohio/Illinois), and despite of a lot of Money that he notoriously Wasted, nevertheless, even Divided until now, the Santorum-led Challengers of Romney, have almost got a 4 to 5 proportion on Delegates, with about 450 to 550 respectively, (and all Polls give Santorum a Win also at Texas, which has 155 Delegates more !), out of 1.444 needed for anyone to win the race before Tamba's Conference on August, (i.e. a long, long road ahead)..

    - Romney has completely LOST, at more than SIX (6) Big Mainland States, where he Fell Down LAST (Lower than Gingrich or even Paul !) : Minnesota, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Alabama, Mississipi.

    On the contrary, Santorum NEVER fell so low
    , (with the only Controversial "Exception" of Virginia, just because Bureaucrates Hindered him even to participate there, as well as Gingrich !)...

    => Nobody could claim to impose himself AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE's democratically expressed will !



    Rick Santorum, A Message - YouTube

    "I don't run just in order to win this Election. What I want is to revive the American Dream !"

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    Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube


    "There is Hope for our Nation again ! "
    Dude what drugs do you take before posting on here.

    Seriously, get off Santorum's nut sack for like 5 minutes and post something coherent.
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by adaher View Post
    What makes Santorum more conservative than Romney?

    he's certainly not more conservative on the economy. ....

    With "ObamaCare" already adopted by Romney at State level ? Are you kidding ?


    Strange question to ask why Santorum is "more Conservative than Romney"...

    Among (many) other issues :


    - Family Values.

    - Moral Values.

    - Protection of Human Life's Dignity, including safeguarding Human Embryon from Dangerous Genetic Manipulations and destruction, on the contrary funded even by Federal Funds, wasted in useless overSpending, which is also full of Risks for all Humankid, after Obama's 1st Decision, taken immediately after his Election thanks to 700 Millions $ of Money (a Record in USA's History : Not even Millionaire Rockfeller didn't use so much !) by largely unknown yet Lobbies..

    - Priority given to the US Constitution, and specially to the Historic Declaration of Independence.

    - Cut Taxes and all measures which push Production out of America, provoking jobless People here, killing Businesses, and massive imports from Foreign Countries with scandalously low Human/Social Rights a.o. standards.

    - Develop American sources of Energy, drastically Reducing expensive and dangerous Dependency from controversial Foreign Countries.

    - Reduce Bureaucratic Spending, Stop and eliminate the currently growing, huge Public Debt.

    - Defend and develop America's Western Culture, History, Values and Identity, as well as his ambition to "Revive the American Dream !".

    (etc+).....

    Last but not least : Not let unpopular, flip-flop, old Millionaire Mitt Romney definitively burry Democracy in America by undermining People's Will on 2008 GOP's Primary Presidential Elections, and totally Blocking and Ignoring it, even worse, now, during 2012 GOP Primaries... (See Facts cited in this thread, above, as well as in other recent threads that we already published on this crucial point).

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    Rick Santorum, A Message - YouTube

    "I don't run just in order to win this Election. What I want is to revive the American Dream !"
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    Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube

    "There is Hope for our Nation again ! "
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Mitt Romney had a pretty solid fiscal record in Massachusetts. Santorum voted for all of Bush's big spending programs. If Bush had proposed a health care program like Mitt Romney's, I bet you Santorum would have voted for it like a good follower. At least Romney had the excuse that it was a solution for the most liberal state in the country.

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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocram View Post
    With "ObamaCare" already adopted by Romney at State level ? Are you kidding ?


    Strange question to ask why Santorum is "more Conservative than Romney"...

    Among (many) other issues :


    - Family Values.

    - Moral Values.

    - Protection of Human Life's Dignity, including safeguarding Human Embryon from Dangerous Genetic Manipulations and destruction, on the contrary funded even by Federal Funds, wasted in useless overSpending, which is also full of Risks for all Humankid, after Obama's 1st Decision, taken immediately after his Election thanks to 700 Millions $ of Money (a Record in USA's History : Not even Millionaire Rockfeller didn't use so much !) by largely unknown yet Lobbies..

    - Priority given to the US Constitution, and specially to the Historic Declaration of Independence.

    - Cut Taxes and all measures which push Production out of America, provoking jobless People here, killing Businesses, and massive imports from Foreign Countries with scandalously low Human/Social Rights a.o. standards.

    - Develop American sources of Energy, drastically Reducing expensive and dangerous Dependency from controversial Foreign Countries.

    - Reduce Bureaucratic Spending, Stop and eliminate the currently growing, huge Public Debt.

    - Defend and develop America's Western Culture, History, Values and Identity, as well as his ambition to "Revive the American Dream !".

    (etc+).....

    Last but not least : Not let unpopular, flip-flop, old Millionaire Mitt Romney definitively burry Democracy in America by undermining People's Will on 2008 GOP's Primary Presidential Elections, and totally Blocking and Ignoring it, even worse, now, during 2012 GOP Primaries... (See Facts cited in this thread, above, as well as in other recent threads that we already published on this crucial point).

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    Rick Santorum, A Message - YouTube

    "I don't run just in order to win this Election. What I want is to revive the American Dream !"
    ------------------


    Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube

    "There is Hope for our Nation again ! "

    I think I figured out which drug you are taking before you post on here. It's that bath salt stuff isn't it. Go ahead admit it, we won't be mad at you for it.
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocram View Post
    An "open" GOP Convention is, indeed, one possibility, ... among many others...

    For the moment, the Santorum-led Challengers of Romney, have almost got a 4 to 5 proportion on Delegates, with about 450 to 550 respectively, out of 1.444 needed for anyone to win, and (most important for a Democracy), the "Conservatives" Santorum/Gingrich have won, until now, a crystal-clear MAJORITY of VOTES, with +1 Million Votes more than Romney, (to which might be added Paul's another Million, i.e. 6 Millions of Votes against only 4).
    But Santorum doesn't represent Gingrich or Paul; they're running against him just as much as against Romney. You're putting Romney against every other candidate combined, which makes no sense. And, even if it did, he's STILL winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocram View Post
    => Nobody could claim to impose himself AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE's democratically expressed will !
    Again, if you want to give the nomination to the one guy who has the most votes, that is unquestionably going to be Mitt Romney.

    Unless he starts winning 70+% of the votes in ALL remaining states (which I hope even you can admit isn't going to happen) Santorum will end the primary process with fewer votes than Mitt Romney. Doesn't that mean that "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE's democratically expressed will" is that Romney be the GOP nominee?

    You can certainly argue that Santorum would be a better choice, or that a brokered convention would be a good thing. But if you're counting votes and arguing for a democratically elected nominee, then you're necessarily arguing for Mitt Romney.
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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    When it comes time for the brokered convention, Ron Paul is gonna have a real nice surprise for everyone. Enjoy your ill-gotten victories while you can because three people are gonna get spanked... royally.

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    Re: Conservative Frontrunner Santorum Wins Majority against Romney (if Gingrich steps asi

    Quote Originally Posted by RRAHH View Post
    When it comes time for the brokered convention, Ron Paul is gonna have a real nice surprise for everyone. Enjoy your ill-gotten victories while you can because three people are gonna get spanked... royally.
    Depends on whom is allowed to actually be present...
    Big Business Republicans = Santorum
    States Rights = Paul
    Looks shocked after every sentence = Romney
    Everyone who thinks Sean Hannity is a Great American = Newt
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