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Popular, young and strong on Values, dynamic Senator Richard Santorum won an unexpectedly large, much Bigger than throught Win over unpopular, flip-flop, old Millionaire Willard "Mitt" Romney, with almost 50% against 26%, Romney struggling not to fall even lower than 25%, which would mean that he wouldn't take not even 1 among the 46 Delegates at stake....
But the greatest Surprise was Newt Gingrich's "melting" down, nearly to ...15% only, (while, on the contrary, previously he had been credited with more than 20%, initially even 30%)... It seems that recent Poll's findings that "the big difference ... is that Conservative Voters appear to be abandoning Gingrich for Santorum now" (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ase_LA_323.pdf ), while also more than +61% of his initial Voters are Ready to Switch towards Santorum (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/doc...n_LA_0320B.pdf) are confirmed and even Larger than expected, as a kind of Popular "Sanction" for his stuborness to divide real Conservatives, (which, taken all together, have a NATIONWIDE, crystal clear Majority against Romney)..
Also, Santorum almost DOUBLED his Winning Margin at the last minute : While Polls expected him to win over Romney with a margin of some 10% or 13%, finally, he succeeded to win up to + 24 % More Votes , reaching 50% to 26%, respectively !
In fact, Millionaire Romney ... DISAPPEARED throughout all Lousiana State's Map, remaining visible only inside Orleans, and lost in almost every Category of the Population, (even among the Elders, his main refuge elsewhere), with the only Exception of those who are earning .. more than 200.000 $ per year...
Even more Worrying for him : An absolute Majority of more than 54% among Romney's current Voters declared that they would be "Satisfied with Santorum if he won the GOP's Nomination" later-on, i.e. ready to switch from Romney towards Santorum, who is recently Winning a Series of Victories since "Super Tuesday". ( http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-in-louisiana/ ).
Just by himself, Santorum succeded to attract more Votes than .. all his competitors added together : More than 91.000 Votes, compared to 26.000 for Romney, 15.000 for Gingrich and 11.000 for Paul, (i.e. about 50% compared to 26% for Romney, 15% for Gingrich and 6% for Paul)...
An interesting point is that many among his Voters were not Evangelicals or other fundamental Christians, but rather also a large portion of "Fiscal Conservatives", even if Santorum largely confiirmed and even reinforced his well known predominance among People who give a priority on "Conservative Values", (such as Family, Children, Life, protection of Human Embryo from Genetic Manipulations Dangerous for Humankind, America's History, Culture and Identity, etc).
+ Louisiana's even more brillant than expected Victory of Santorum, confirms and strengthens further the TREND, Since "Super Tuesday" (March 6), for him to mark clear Wins in almost Every Big State in Mainland America, (with the only Exception of Illinois, where an abnormaly "Lower Turnout than in 70 Years" : only ..15%, certainly wouldn't happen again when it will come to face Obama, as mainstream Media critically observed), while, on the contrary, Romney only gets a few "Exotic" areas, in Remote Regions of the World, such as ... Guam, Samoa or Marianas Islands, etc.... (See our special thread, full of Facts on this astonishing U-turn).
- Moreover, Until today, Romney has completely LOST, at more than SIX (6) big mainland States, where he Fell Down LAST (Lower than Gingrich or even Paul !) : Minnesota, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Alabama, Mississipi.
On the contrary, Santorum NEVER fell so low, (with the only Controversial "Exception" of Virginia, just because Bureaucracy Hindered him even to participate there, as well as Gingrich !)...
- In fact, ROMNEY IS A MINORITY, since he's got - 1 Million Votes LESS than the Conservatives, led by Santorum and including Gingrich, who got together much more than 5 Millions of Votes, (to which might e added also Paul's more than + 1 Million votes, making the total 6 Miliions), against only 4 Millions for Romney...
He is as small as a Minority of only 39% of GOP's Votes, with 61% opposed to him ! The Strongest Group of all being that of Real Conservatives with 49%, led by Santorum (more than 27 % and growing fast !), including Gingrich's voters (21 %), and followed by Paul's (10%), with some 2% being dispersed to various others (as Huntsman, Perry, Bachman, etc., i.e. notoriously close to Santorum).
Last but not least, recently, Santorum's campaign's staff started to Strongly Contest the precise Number of Delegates' allocation, as reported by various mainstream Media, claiming that the Real Proportion would be something around 300 to 400 for Romney, etc., ( Faulty math? Rick Santorum ), while Polls give Santorum a clear Win also on Texas, which has 155 Delegates.
- Santorum has thus Won the 1st place in more than 11 States, and the Second place in 15 States, while Gingrich has only won in 2 States and came Second in 3 States. Thus, Santorum has already got more than the DOUBLE of Gingrich's Delegates : More than 273 compared to only 135.
=> If "Newt" persists to Divide the Conservatives for too long, then he will obviously become a ..."Nuisance", and will bear alone all heavy Responsibilities for the consequences.
But he could logically team with Santorum, (f.ex. as future Vice-President or State Secretary, etc) so that, all together, they rapidly transform their Voters' Majority inside GOP, also in a Majority in Delegates.
Unless Gingrich, in fact, wants just to keep the Minority of 20% among his Voters who would otherwise go to Romney, while, in fact, leaving the Majority of more than 61% of his Voters who are ready to go towards Santorum, to do so : I.e., by a "coincidence", ... precisely what has already happened, just today in Louisiana (See above) !..
At any case, one thing is certain : Nobody could go against the American People's Will by imposing them an unpopular, Minority candidate, as Romney, contrary to the democratically expressed will of the Majority of Voters, who are obviously in favor of the Conservative wing, led by Santorum and including Gingrich, etc. (See Facts cited above).
Because, in that case, GOP would simply loose, as also it did back on 2008, when its establishment (Romney included) undermined the charismatic Governor Mike Huckabee, in order to impose the so-called "moderate" McCain, who totaly Failed in front of Obama...
It's only on 2004 US Presidential Elections that the Popular "Values" Movement, able to revive an "American Dream" nowadays, emerged suddenly, free and strong, helping succesfully GWBush to mark, at the last minute, an unexpected, crystal-clear Win with + 3 Millions of Votes more. But, some establishment lobbies slyly "killed" that growing Popular Wave, during the Primaries, back on 2008, and all GOP paid a heavy price for that Blunder.
However, popular, young and strong on Values, dynamic Senator Rick Santorum, the only real Revelation of 2012 GOP Primaries for the US Presidential Election, has already proved that he knows how to Win even without the Tens of Millions $ spend by his adversaries, (and mainly the disgraceful Waste of Money by the unpopular, flip-flop, old Millionaire Romney : a Shame during these times of Global Crisis !), by running, on the contrary, just with super-Motivated People's Energy !
Only such an energetic Personality, based on Solid Principles and Popular Values, could really speak to average, simple Working American People, awaken and attract a large Number among the 50% of Abstentionists in recent US Elections, shaping a Strongly Motivated and Enthousiastic Majority able both to win against Obama, and to "Restore Faith in the American Dream", as Santorum's Noble ambition is .-
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Rick Santorum, A Message - YouTube
"I hope that you see me not only the Best Candidate to defeat Barack Obama, but also for restoring Faith in the American Dream"
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Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube
"There is Hope for our Nation again ! "
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Last edited by Ocram; 03-25-2012 at 05:26 AM.
Secretary of Defense
Here's a little something about your boy Santos:
The Gang of Four starring Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich - YouTube!
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"
--R.P.
Secretary of Defense
Oh yeah and your boy keeps getting spanked by Paul in these caucuses across the country:
Ron Paul Upsets Santorum In Missouri Caucuses Buoyed By Huge Youth Turnout @PolicyMic | Hamdan Azhar
"The final outcome of Missouri’s lengthy caucus process may not be known for months. Early results, however, indicate that Ron Paul may well walk away from the state with the most delegates. Yesterday, his supporters overwhelmed the largest pooled caucus – Jackson county, responsible for sending 179 delegates to the state and congressional district conventions – winning over two-thirds of the available delegate slots. Mr. Paul also swept St. Louis, winning all of the city’s 36 delegates.
Missouri’s second and third largest caucuses, which convened last Saturday, reported similar results. In Greene county (111 delegates), Paul backers won nearly 60% of the delegate slots. In St. Charles (147 delegates), they so thoroughly dominated that the county GOP chair, allegedly a Santorum supporter, adjourned the meeting and called in the police to prevent the election from taking place.
In each of these counties, Paul supporters were outnumbered by Santorum supporters by at least 4-to-1*. Against these daunting odds, the Ron Paulers emerged victorious due to their unmatched grassroots organization and their ability to turn out the youth vote. In Greene county, party insiders said they had “never seen so many young people at a Republican caucus.”
Missouri’s results – a shot in the arm for the Paul campaign – have led many observers to conclude that Mr. Paul’s caucus strategy is working better than they had anticipated. His strong performance follows several events in recent weeks that suggest that Ron Paul supporters – energized by the message of limited government and fiscal conservatism – are quickly taking over the leadership of the Republican party at the state and local levels across the country.
Earlier this month, in Las Vegas, Paul supporters were elected to two-thirds of the board positions in the Clark County Republican Party after winning more county convention delegates than any other candidate at the caucuses – including Mitt Romney. Meanwhile, in Iowa, the state co-chair of the Paul campaign was elected as the chairman of the Iowa Republican Party in February. Last week, Paul supporters swept all the delegate slots in two of Seattle’s largest legislative district conventions.
Such accomplishments belie the mainstream media’s efforts to marginalize Ron Paul’s candidacy. The Associated Press’s projections, for example, report the Texas congressman as being last in the delegate count. Election analysts, however, insist that those projections are driven by a failure to understand the rules governing delegate allocation in caucus states. Josh Putnam, election expert and professor of political science, agrees. The AP delegate count, he admits, is based on “a fantasy proportional allocation of delegates in the non-binding caucus states.”
Heading into the Missouri caucuses, the New York Times reported that Rick Santorum was "frantically wooing voters" in an attempt to secure a "second victory." Since then, the Times' caucus blog has maintained complete silence about Ron Paul's unexpectedly strong performance in the state.
With his likely victory in Missouri, Mr. Paul has shown once again that his campaign – fueled by the passion and determination of millions of grassroots supporters across the country – should not be written off too quickly. He has more than doubled his voter base since 2008, intends to compete aggressively in Texas and California, and continues to upend the establishment narrative at every turn. Regardless of who wins the Republican nomination, all available evidence suggests that the Ron Paul movement will continue to be a significant force in American politics for decades to come.
* In Missouri’s Feb. 7 primary – meaningless, since it awarded zero delegates - the ratio of Santorum votes to Paul votes was 3.8 in Jackson county, 4.3 in St. Charles county, and 4.5 in Greene county. Ron Paul won the majority of the county-level delegates in Jackson and Greene counties, and is expected to do the same in St. Charles when it holds its rescheduled caucus on April 10."
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies"
--R.P.
Secretary of State
I guess I am not certain why the Louisiana win was a Surprise? The only thing that would surprise me at this point in time is if Santorum wins another state--with the exception of his home state Pennsylvania.
Furthermore--I wish they would take Colorado off as a win for Santorum. We have a regular primary ballot vote on June 26 and he's not going to win. The February 7th vote was just a straw poll caucas vote--(no delegates were awarded--and they won't be until the primary). Less than 5% of registered republicans participated in the straw poll caucas.
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Originally Posted by Oreo
- 1) Because the HUGE NUMBER of PEOPLE's VOTES that Santorum won, was much BIGGER than anyone ever thought, it went far beyond any expectation, bypassing all earlier Polls, even the most positive, (even TWICE more : X 200 % !!)
- 2) Because Romney had to struggle overnight not to fall even lower than 25% : the Threshhold below of which nobody gets any Delegate.. (Mitt was stuck around that critical 25% for many Crucial Hours, and, finally escaped, with a slight margin, only .. After MidNight, when almost nobody is there to check how votes are counted throughout all Louisiana)...
- 3) Because Gingrich's former Voters almost .. "Vanished", obviously going massively towards Santorum ! (See cited Numbers).
+ All this is added to the fact that Santorum's Super-Win at Louisiana, confirms that, since "Super Tuesday", a New Trend is for Romney to practicaly LOSE ALL big Mainland America's States, getting only ... some "Exotic" spots like .. Guam, Marianas Islands, Samoa, etc, or notoriously Cheating in corrupted Illinois (... "Historic Record Low Turnout, as never before in 70 Years !", as even Gingrich denounced, together with many Medias)..
President
Who cares. The undecideds mostly broke for Santorum. Big whoop. It's not a surprise to almost anybody but the OP.
Where the hell else is Santorum gonna win?
He could win his home state of PA, but he lost Michigan and Ohio, and over the contests that took place in March in MO, LA, MS, AL and KS, Santorum was supposed to rack up some margins in order to catch up to Romney, but overall Romney still has about more than 80 delegates than the rest of the field.
I think a segment of the Republican party has gotten so ignorant to mathematics that even when Romney crosses the finish line in the last contest of CA, the rest of 'em will still think that they can catch up somehow in some invented state in their minds.
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ahoy Ocram,
a nice victory fer Mr. Santorum, i'd agree with ye thar matey. overall though, if Mr. Romney and Mr. Santorum look like they be runnin' neck and neck to ye, its because Mr. Romney has lapped the former congressman.
- MeadHallPirate
Last edited by MeadHallPirate; 03-25-2012 at 10:35 PM.
Secretary of State
It's no surprise to anyone that Santorum won Louisiana. Santorum would have to win 75% of the remaining delegates to even get close to Romney--and we're coming up quickly on April which is going to be MITT ROMNEY month--lots of states and winner take all states.
Furthermore--by some miraculous event that Santorum wins the nomination--what's he going to run on? birth control contraceptives--This guy would get creamed by the Obama reelection committee with this kind of crap--because he spews continually out of Santorum's mouth--and by the time Obama was done with him--the only woman in this country that would cast a vote for Santorum--would be his wife.
Last edited by Oreo; 03-25-2012 at 10:35 PM.
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"Ahoy" MeadHallPirate,
Here are some FACTS :
- In fact, ROMNEY IS A MINORITY, even inside GOP, since he's got - 1 Million Votes LESS than the Conservatives, led by Santorum and including Gingrich, who got together much more than 5 Millions of Votes, (to which might be added also Paul's more than + 1 Million votes, making the total 6 Miliions), against only 4 Millions for Romney...
- Moreover, Until today, Romney has completely LOST, at more than SIX (6) big mainland States, where he Fell Down LAST (Lower than Gingrich or even Paul !) : Minnesota, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Alabama, Mississipi.
On the contrary, Santorum NEVER fell so low, (with the only Controversial "Exception" of Virginia, just because Bureaucracy Hindered him even to participate, as well as Gingrich !)...
Despite all that Money, uselessly spent and wasted by Mr. Willard Romney !..
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The surprise is the "unexpectedly large, much Bigger than throught, Win ...with almost 50% against 26%" ( !), as we stressed from the outset (See above).
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False !... Santorum would have to win 75% of the remaining delegates to even get close to Romney...
(a) Even mainstream (i.e. Establishement's) Media have just reported that Santorum needs something about a 60% of more wins, from May to June+, in order to become No 1, (while Romney would need something about a little bit less than 50%).
(b) But, according to other ways to count, (including, particularly, a big Controversy on Numbers, dehounced by his Experts), in fact, the real number of Delehates would be quite Differend, i.e. much Better for Santorum (with somehing around 4 to 5).
(c) At any case, and in addition, Santorum and others said recently that they want an "Open" GOP Convention at Tampa during August. And that's much more easy to realize.
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You're close..., but didn't get it yet :... Furthermore--by some miraculous event that Santorum wins the nomination--what's he going to run on? birth control contraceptives-- This guy would get creamed by the Obama reelection committee with this kind of crap--because he spews continually out of Santorum's mouth--....
=> + Protection for Human Embryo against Dangerous Genetic Manipulations, Risky for all Humankind, (and many more, most of which are, in fact, Linked, as, f.ex, the Mass Unemployement since the Economic Crisis, the Deadly Virus ofk 2009, etc)..
Former US President GWBush won an unexpected, last minute, brillant, crystal-clear Victory (+ 3 Millions Voters more !), against Dems' Millionaire Kerry on 2004 US Presidential Election, thanks mainly to that issue !
See also : America needs Popular Energy and Solid Values => Go for Senator Rick Santorum !
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It's true that the Main thing, the most important, is the Next Month of MAY, where Pensylvania, North Carolina, Nebraskaa, Texas (155 Delegates !) etc. are, according to the Polls, Santorum's Wins !....... and we're coming up quickly on April which is going to be MITT ROMNEY month...
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=> ... WHOSE "Wife", you said?............and by the time Obama was done with him--the only woman in this country that would cast a vote for Santorum--would be his wife.
Apparently you ignore the Fact that, according to recent Polls, not only in Louisianna but also Nationwide, Santorum has started to attract MORE WOMEN Voters, than Romney !
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/24/us...ive-women.html
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Game On - Song for Rick Santorum - Super Tuesday Surprise Original By First Love (Band) - YouTube
"There is Hope for our Nation again ! "
Last edited by Ocram; 04-03-2012 at 05:41 PM.
Secretary of Defense
Sorry to break it to you.... but the only way Santorum gets the nomination now is if Romney REALLY screws up. I'm thinking it would take something on the order of giving his next speech in leather assless chaps, announcing his intention to legalize same sex animal marriage, whilst having anal sex with a male muslim goat named OsamaBama Bin Laden at the podium.
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