Thread: VP Picking Time

Olympia Snowe.

She's not offensive to liberals, she's got all kinds of experience, she's fully accepted by the Republican party and she's available. I don't see Romney going outside the establishment in any way, shape or form.

I didn't mean establishment though. I just mean someone who isn't insane. Clearly Snowe is no more a Republican than Romney so she shouldn't be on the ticket. The last thing the party needs is a flip flopping North Eastern rich white person on the ticket.

Oh, wait.

You tricked me, lol. :p

Yeah, but doubling down on moderation probably isn't a great idea. He's already doing well among the more moderate and liberal Republicans, he doesn't need a demoralized conservative base. And while Snowe is moderate, she's got two problems: 1) she's never run anything, and 2) no one's ever questioned the fact that she married her way to the top(which is better than Haley I guess). She marries a legislator, then when he dies, she takes his place in the State House. Then she marries the governor and uses her fame as First Lady to run for Senate.

Can you imagine what the feminists would say about Republicans picking someone with Snowe's history? We need a self-made woman. Might as well nominate Todd Palin if we're going to nominate Snowe.

Originally Posted by lutherf

Olympia Snowe.

She's not offensive to liberals, she's got all kinds of experience, she's fully accepted by the Republican party and she's available. I don't see Romney going outside the establishment in any way, shape or form.

You accounts go a little crazy after tax day, don't you?

Finish whatever it is you're drinking, and go to bed for about 20 hours Lutherf...

Originally Posted by Chloe

I didn't mean establishment though. I just mean someone who isn't insane. Clearly Snowe is no more a Republican than Romney so she shouldn't be on the ticket. The last thing the party needs is a flip flopping North Eastern rich white person on the ticket.

Oh, wait.

You tricked me, lol. :p

She's not a flip flopper, though...at least within the range of 'triangulation' that politicians usually do where some of that is expected but not where people like him exhaust the tolerance of it and, in his case, just throws the whole matter of issue integrity to the wind. Being a moderate is something one, as is in her case, something one can credibly hold.

Whether the base will accept her is another matter. But given it accepted McCain last election and now goes to a guy like this, an important trend is developing, at least for a Presidential election. A tepid vote counts just as much as an enthusiastic one. For the machine that's only interested in the ballot counts, as long as enough of the base chooses to hold their nose and vote for anyone anyway regardless of who they are, it's fair for the machine to conclude that they really don't demand what they say they want and will settle for whoever they're told to vote. It's a matter of getting non-GOP straight ticket voters to vote for the ticket.

Originally Posted by adaher

Yeah, but doubling down on moderation probably isn't a great idea. He's already doing well among the more moderate and liberal Republicans, he doesn't need a demoralized conservative base. And while Snowe is moderate, she's got two problems: 1) she's never run anything, and 2) no one's ever questioned the fact that she married her way to the top(which is better than Haley I guess). She marries a legislator, then when he dies, she takes his place in the State House. Then she marries the governor and uses her fame as First Lady to run for Senate.

Can you imagine what the feminists would say about Republicans picking someone with Snowe's history? We need a self-made woman. Might as well nominate Todd Palin if we're going to nominate Snowe.

That'd never happen as Todd Palin might just get people out to the polls.

I'd agree that Romney doesn't need to add another moderate to the ticket but then I really don't expect the guy to do a whole hell of a lot that I'd like him to.

I think that the GOP establishment is essentially playing a prevent defense with conservatives. The last thing that they want is for another Tea Party type to make any headway at all. They saw that the Tea Party was more interested in holding people accountable for their actions than they were about pulling the lever for the flavor of the month and that's simply no way to run an establishment.

Originally Posted by jviehe

Would you choose to be Romneys VP and why? Anti-Republicans, just pick someone you find least distasteful, and save the insults and rhetoric. Must be a Republican.

Ill start with: Nicki Haley

-woman
-governor of south carolina
-4 years state rep
-educated in accounting
-tea party favorite
-small businesswoman
-chamber of commerce officer
-solid conservative policies

cons
-shell be demonized as hating women and immigrants
-sex scandals!
-short time as executive
-woman
-shell be compared to palin

Unfortunately the spectre of Palin will loom large this election as many of the more exciting candidates won't be selected due to unfair, yet inevitable comparisons with Palin. Nikki Haley won't be selected as she has served the same length of time in the governors mansion as Palin, so she will be referred to as 'Palin-lite', or something like that. Likewise, Suzanna Martinez would actually be the best candidate for Romney, as she would help make in-roads with the womens and hispanic vote ... but as with Haley, she's served the same period of time as Palin. One person that I think would make an interesting candidate is Mary Falin. Although she has served the same time as Governor as Palin, she has also served as Lt Gov and in Congress. She would also appeal to the TEA Party and Christian Conservatives, so would really help deliver the base to Romney.

Up to this point Romnney has run a textbook campaign, and I don't see him deviating from his play book and making an outrageous VP nomination, so I think his VP will come from someone like Rob Portman, Mitch Daniels, or Haley Barbour. Most (if not all???) of the GOP women will be tarred by Sarah Palin, so unfortunately I don't think 2012 will be the year of the woman. It's a real sexist shame though. When past tickets have been hampered by poor running mates, that hasn't stopped nominees from selection male running mates the next time around - I think it says a lot about politics and the media as to how they (women) are portrayed.

So, if none of these issues were in play I'd select Mary Falin, as she can deliver everything to Romney that he needs and is looking for.

Brittney Spears.
She's quite normal when kept busy and she constantly defended GW.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Brittney Spears.
She's quite normal when kept busy and she constantly defended GW.

She still alive?

Originally Posted by noahath

Unfortunately the spectre of Palin will loom large this election as many of the more exciting candidates won't be selected due to unfair, yet inevitable comparisons with Palin. Nikki Haley won't be selected as she has served the same length of time in the governors mansion as Palin, so she will be referred to as 'Palin-lite', or something like that. Likewise, Suzanna Martinez would actually be the best candidate for Romney, as she would help make in-roads with the womens and hispanic vote ... but as with Haley, she's served the same period of time as Palin. One person that I think would make an interesting candidate is Mary Falin. Although she has served the same time as Governor as Palin, she has also served as Lt Gov and in Congress. She would also appeal to the TEA Party and Christian Conservatives, so would really help deliver the base to Romney.

Up to this point Romnney has run a textbook campaign, and I don't see him deviating from his play book and making an outrageous VP nomination, so I think his VP will come from someone like Rob Portman, Mitch Daniels, or Haley Barbour. Most (if not all???) of the GOP women will be tarred by Sarah Palin, so unfortunately I don't think 2012 will be the year of the woman. It's a real sexist shame though. When past tickets have been hampered by poor running mates, that hasn't stopped nominees from selection male running mates the next time around - I think it says a lot about politics and the media as to how they (women) are portrayed.

So, if none of these issues were in play I'd select Mary Falin, as she can deliver everything to Romney that he needs and is looking for.

Nope.

Divorced along with sex scandal. Hard core social conservatives will be put off and the left will make it look like she's some kind of back ally Sally. On top of that, Fallin is close enough looking to Palin that it will become an issue....not to mention that it will be roughly 3 seconds before the realization hits that "Fallin" is a cross between "Fey" and "Palin". I guarantee that that bit of idiocy will swamp any credibility she might otherwise be able to gain.

Originally Posted by Sluggo

She still alive?

And looking better than ever.

Originally Posted by lutherf

Nope.

Divorced along with sex scandal. Hard core social conservatives will be put off and the left will make it look like she's some kind of back ally Sally. On top of that, Fallin is close enough looking to Palin that it will become an issue....not to mention that it will be roughly 3 seconds before the realization hits that "Fallin" is a cross between "Fey" and "Palin". I guarantee that that bit of idiocy will swamp any credibility she might otherwise be able to gain.

Oh yeah I forgot about her and the state trooper. I thik Romney will be pretty hard pressed though to find a Republican that hans't been involved in some sort of sex scandal What is it with Americans and a fascination with sex? It's all about who someone slept with, about contraception, homoisexuality, etc. I say, "chill out".

I'll be very surprised if Rubio or Christie are selected. I don't think Rubio will stand up to the scrutiny, and Christie is NOT a number 2. McDonnell has ruled himself out with his recent statements, so I think it comes back to Daniels or Portman. Barbour would be a good VP, aka Cheney.

Originally Posted by noahath

Oh yeah I forgot about her and the state trooper. I thik Romney will be pretty hard pressed though to find a Republican that hans't been involved in some sort of sex scandal What is it with Americans and a fascination with sex? It's all about who someone slept with, about contraception, homoisexuality, etc. I say, "chill out".

I'll be very surprised if Rubio or Christie are selected. I don't think Rubio will stand up to the scrutiny, and Christie is NOT a number 2. McDonnell has ruled himself out with his recent statements, so I think it comes back to Daniels or Portman. Barbour would be a good VP, aka Cheney.

The American political thing with sex is actually Clinton's fault and the Republican reaction to it as well as the media's constant pushing of the issue.

We censor sex all over the place which tends to make the subject somewhat taboo and thus more "juicy" when it comes up. It's really quite an adolescent fascination, in my opinion, and the way that the subject tends to be handled in public is bordering on comical.