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    Re: VP Picking Time

    While being against every actual attempt to shrink government. He grew government in Arkansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaher View Post
    That's not the disqualifier it used to be. After all, Portman and Mitch Daniels were also Bushies. Rice emerged from the administration mostly unscathed and enjoys strong approval ratings:

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    47-18 positive/negative in 2008. Arguably there are no other VP possibilities with approval ratings that strong.
    ahoy Adaher,

    no one really associates Mr. Daniels or Mr. Portman with the Bush administration, outside 'o USPO, aye....heck, even here i don't think folks give it much thought.

    also, when i think 'o Ms. Rice, i tend to give her a great deal 'o "credit" fer President Bush's foreign policy decisions.

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    True, but she has high approval ratings and it's not easy to demonize a VP candidate who is already well known in only 3-4 months. And she's not likely to help out like Sarah Palin did. She can handle herself in interviews.

    I think strategically another useful thing is that it will provoke a lot of liberal morons to use racial epithets, which should be quite endearing to independent voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaher View Post
    Cabinet officers run their departments. She ran State, so that counts.
    Thats not really the same as having the personality to be all powerful. She still had a boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaher View Post
    Huck's a mixed package. The evangelicals love him, but the Tea Party and Club for Growth are sworn enemies of his. A Romney/Huck ticket would have about 10% of Tea Partiers defecting to Gary Johnson.
    Id say his show on FNC has doomed him. And he doesnt want it.

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    ahoy Jviehe,

    imma irritated to admit this, but ye and meself be on the same page here, me hearty.

    i don't think Mr. Romney needs to pick a second 'n command to appeal to moderates...he is a moderate.

    i think he'd do better to shore up his appeal to fearsome conservatives, and in that light i'd think that Paul Ryan would be a mighty choice. i think Eric Cantor would be an interestin' pick also.

    a more low profile pick that might yield fruit in a battleground state be senator Rob Portman, from Ohio. he hath both experience in the private sector, has a nice wholesome family life - and be a deficit hawk (who likes to hunt, yarrrr!).

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    ahoy Jviehe,

    we were right, matey!

    arrrRRRRR!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    ahoy Jviehe,

    we were right, matey!

    arrrRRRRR!!!!!!

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    Do you have like a spreadsheet you keep track of stuff with? Seriously, I don't think I've seen anyone pull stuff out of antiquity quite so readily as you. I'm going to have to watch my mouth around you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Do you have like a spreadsheet you keep track of stuff with? Seriously, I don't think I've seen anyone pull stuff out of antiquity quite so readily as you. I'm going to have to watch my mouth around you.
    ahoy Fishjoel me friend!

    the thing i love 'bout debatin' on USPO be the long trail 'o breadcrumbs we all leave behind in past posts and in the archives. it makes exchangin' idears with folks, especially veterans like yerself, a spirited exercise.

    back in yer wrasslin' days, didn't ye keep a mental ledger 'bout yer mightest foes? somethin' along the lines 'o "this guy has a great power double leg, and he always shoots first....i gotta be ready to sprawl, get wrist control and circle to the right"?

    i think the main thing be folk have to be consistent - especially if they've thundered away at some topic with great passion when "the other side" was in power, and suddenly go mute on the same subject when thar own team takes the reigns.

    *salutes*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    ahoy Fishjoel me friend!

    the thing i love 'bout debatin' on USPO be the long trail 'o breadcrumbs we all leave behind in past posts and in the archives. it makes exchangin' idears with folks, especially veterans like yerself, a spirited exercise.

    back in yer wrasslin' days, didn't ye keep a mental ledger 'bout yer mightest foes? somethin' along the lines 'o "this guy has a great power double leg, and he always shoots first....i gotta be ready to sprawl, get wrist control and circle to the right"?

    i think the main thing be folk have to be consistent - especially if they've thundered away at some topic with great passion when "the other side" was in power, and suddenly go mute on the same subject when thar own team takes the reigns.

    *salutes*

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    True, but I can't remember what I've written a week ago. My own posts! I do think there is room for people to evolve their political beliefs. When I initially joined, and for a bit afterwards, I probably would have considered myself more of a neocon. Since then I've slowly moved into somewhat of a libertarian type conservative.
    "The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead." - John Maynard Keynes (admits his philosophy is not viable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    True, but I can't remember what I've written a week ago. My own posts! I do think there is room for people to evolve their political beliefs. When I initially joined, and for a bit afterwards, I probably would have considered myself more of a neocon. Since then I've slowly moved into somewhat of a libertarian type conservative.
    ahoy Fishjoel,

    aye - i think 'tis interestin' to see small changes in how folks see things o'er the years.

    i think i kinda leaned to the left when i first joined the decks, and since then i've drifted o'er to feel more in line with the Eisenhower, Rockefeller, (Goerge) Romney conservatism 'o an earlier era...relics from a less barbaric time who'd have no place in the current version 'o the GOP.

    i must be gettin' on in me years, i think.

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    Re: VP Picking Time

    So, looks like we have ourselves a three ring circus in the GOP now. Paul Ryan. I guess there could have been worse picks... like Santorum or Gingrich. It's cool though. I don't see the VP spot as anything but the "yes man" spot anyway.

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