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    Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Romney was involved in Bain's investment in a company called Stericycle, a medical waste company that makes its profits in part from disposing of foetal remains and expended abortion apparatus at abortion clinics.

    Romney Invested in Medical-Waste Firm That Disposed of Aborted Fetuses, Government Documents Show | Mother Jones

    Apparently, this issue came up earlier during the SC primary but Bain and Romney quickly disclaimed his involvement in it, claiming he no longer was involved at Bain. Consequently, it was taken as a non issue as to Romney himself and dropped. The anti-abortion activists' protest and efforts against Stericycle, however, have not, e.g.,

    Stop Stericycle | Public Notice | Investors & Clients BEWARE!

    Stericycle Servicing the Second Largest Planned Parenthood Facility in the Nation - YouTube
    Some People's Garbage is other People's People - YouTube
    Stericycle Abortion Mill Pickup | Peninsula Medical Center for Women | Newport News, VA - YouTube
    Pro-Life Victory, Richmond: Stericycle & Idealease - YouTube
    Stericycle Collecting Abortion 'Waste' from the Last Abortion Facility in Mississippi - YouTube
    Stericycle Servicing Visit Planned Parenthood Denver Stapleton - YouTube

    Apparently it's been linked with things like dumping foetal remains in landfills, e.g.,

    Stericycle Slammed with Fines for Illegally Dumping Aborted Babies | Campaign to Stop Stericycle

    and removing remains from doctors charged with illegal late term abortions such as Kermit Gosnell's Philadelphia 'house of horrors' clinic where he's on trial for multiple murders of near full term babies and Steven Brigham facing the same kinds of charges, e.g.,

    Grand Jury Documents Reveal Stericycle’s Partnership with Notorious Abortionist Kermit Gosnell | Campaign to Stop Stericycle
    LifeSiteNews Mobile | Medical waste giant Stericycle serviced abortionist charged with 10 counts of murder

    According to today's reports, what Romney and Bain said to cover his involvement with Stericycle is now shown to be false and he played a considerable role in it, including his own key personal signings.

    On one side, this is already going to be a talking point, e.g.,



    in conjunction with his flip flops on abortion.

    The other one is that he lied in the GOP primary about his tenure at Bain, which opens the door to how much else he's lied about concerning it. That's already the opening lines of the liberal blogs, e.g.,

    MON JUL 02, 2012 AT 06:59 AM PDT
    Romney lied about role in Bain's investment in medical-waste firm that disposed of aborted fetuses
    byJed Lewison

    . . . So instead of admitting to social conservatives that he played a role in Bain's investment in Stericycle, Romney lied. It would be bad enough if the safety issues were what he was dodging responsibility for, but he was scared to admit that he had helped fund a company because it was doing something which any reasonable person recognizes must be done: dispose of medical waste from abortions.

    But this isn't just a profile in cowardice, it's a profile in dishonesty. Not only did Romney have a role in the deal and sign documents related to it, but as Corn points out, contemporaneous press releases and news reports demolish Romney's claim to have had nothing to do with Bain Capital after departing for the Olympics. According to both Bain and the media, Romney continued to participate in decision making at the company, even during his "part-time leave of absence."

    This story doesn't just undercut Romney's claims about Stericycle, it also calls into question every other defense of his practices at Bain Capital. Because Romney and Bain refuse to open their books, their response to criticism has always been some variant of "trust us, that's not true." And as this story shows, trusting them is a fool's errand. . . .
    Daily Kos: Romney lied about role in Bain's investment in medical-waste firm that disposed of aborted fetuses

    Romney keeps getting tangled in his own deceits, and that it's tied to medical waste disposal at abortion clinics, adds extra problems to it. How much this affects him I'm unsure, but why this guy, with all that's known about him already on credibility, that he didn't get vetted better within GOP ranks for troubling insincerity and inconsistency beyond the obvious he already has in piles is a lesson I thought should have been learnt after Palin. What's next in the skeleton closet...ugh.

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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    So in addition to flip-flopping on every known issue including this one, he made money by making a company that destroys aborted babies more profitable.

    I will not be surprised when rightwingers flock to defend him over this.
    Liberals fail to recognize that modern conservatives are direct evidence of the failure of the public education system.


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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Just because this story is from DailyKos through Mother Jones I figure that it might be a good idea to post a link to the CNN article which also has a link to the 13D.

    Link to 13D through Mother Jones
    Link to CNN Fortune article

    Obviously, this is just something that Romney forgot....no harm, no foul......right?

    I'll give Romney this much......if he "officially" left Bain in Feb, 1999 it's feasible that he stayed on the books until year end so that they didn't have to file a short year return or close out his partner account. If that was the case then he may have been pretty much inactive as far as being involved in acquisitions (though such an acquisition wouldn't happen overnight!).
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Just because this story is from DailyKos through Mother Jones I figure that it might be a good idea to post a link to the CNN article which also has a link to the 13D.

    Link to 13D through Mother Jones
    Link to CNN Fortune article

    Obviously, this is just something that Romney forgot....no harm, no foul......right?
    Thanks. I was looking for a neutral citation but couldn't find one. It's my general practice not to cite any partisan sources or blogs, etc, when I can find a mainstream source. Yep, I'm sure it slipped his mind.

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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere View Post
    Thanks. I was looking for a neutral citation but couldn't find one. It's my general practice not to cite any partisan sources or blogs, etc, when I can find a mainstream source. Yep, I'm sure it slipped his mind.
    The real asshattery of this is that even if Mitt was only "kind of" involved with Bain at the time this kind of acquisition is something that takes a good bit of time to work out so there is no question but that he was involved well before this filing.

    I don't know from any of the quick reading I have done at what point Stericycle got hit up for dumping fetuses in landfills but it may have been well after the dealings with Bain were completed and it's certainly possible that Bain never knew of such practices if they were going on at the time. That being said is should have been part of the acquisition process for Bain decision makers to have been aware of who Stericycle had as clients and if Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills were on that list.....well......it sure doesn't help the image of Bain as a vulture!
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Notice how the "librul media" (in the CNN wrap-up) is consciously ignoring evidence and claiming "Stericycle remains out of bounds".
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    ahoy O'Sullivan Bere,

    i may be wrong, but wouldn't Mr. Romney's participation in this company dovetail with his own philosphy at an earlier age?

    i mean, i don't remember'm as bein' some kinda ardent pro-lifer durin' his tenure as Governor, aye?

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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    No big deal. These fetuses were not Mormon fetuses. Perhaps like the muslims, the infidel fetuses don't count.

    Romney is the archetypal who lusts for position and power, and will do WHAT it takes to obtain that. The trouble comes when most of the men who want to be president are cut from this same cloth. The trouble comes when so many men in congress are cut from this same cloth.

    Then instead of serving the nation's best interests, they are only concerned with maintaining their positions of power, status and prestige. And that pretty much defines DC today, IMO. Most times the root of great problems goes back to things of this nature. And it would explain the grand mess we are in today, as a nation.

    Romney is the archetype of this sort of person. He exudes it like summer sweat in the deep south. Why is it that the republicans have such a hard time with coming up with decent canidates? This party seems to choose when it's time to let another republican have his shot at that high office. Kinda like a "good old boys club".
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    ahoy O'Sullivan Bere,

    i may be wrong, but wouldn't Mr. Romney's participation in this company dovetail with his own philosphy at an earlier age?

    i mean, i don't remember'm as bein' some kinda ardent pro-lifer durin' his tenure as Governor, aye?

    - MeadHallPirate
    A republican liberal pretending he is a conservative? A chameleon who changes colors depending upon the environment? The archetypal character who MUST have power, position, status, prestige? A wet finger to the wind sort of man?
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Hahaha this shit just keeps getting better.

    Yes, let's nominate that moderate Progressive Republican who loves individual mandates and used to be "pro-choice" instead of you know

    A TRUE FISCAL CONSERVATIVE/PRO-LIFE CONSTITUTIONALIST WHO HAS NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY LOBBIED BY ANY COMPANY AND WHO IS COMPLETEY FREE MARKET ON HEALTHCARE AND A FORMER DOCTOR.

    ahhhh the stupidity of the GOP....

    Get ready to lose to Obama fellow conservatives...
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    No big deal. These fetuses were not Mormon fetuses. Perhaps like the muslims, the infidel fetuses don't count.

    Romney is the archetypal who lusts for position and power, and will do WHAT it takes to obtain that. The trouble comes when most of the men who want to be president are cut from this same cloth. The trouble comes when so many men in congress are cut from this same cloth.

    Then instead of serving the nation's best interests, they are only concerned with maintaining their positions of power, status and prestige. And that pretty much defines DC today, IMO. Most times the root of great problems goes back to things of this nature. And it would explain the grand mess we are in today, as a nation.

    Romney is the archetype of this sort of person. He exudes it like summer sweat in the deep south. Why is it that the republicans have such a hard time with coming up with decent canidates? This party seems to choose when it's time to let another republican have his shot at that high office. Kinda like a "good old boys club".
    Romney is a tool, no doubt about it. But just to be clear, it is completely reasonable to expect Romney to know exactly what every employee at every company Bain was involved with was doing, but it is completely unreasonable to hold the Attorney General to the same standard with regard to the agencies he heads?
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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    Quote Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate View Post
    ahoy O'Sullivan Bere,

    i may be wrong, but wouldn't Mr. Romney's participation in this company dovetail with his own philosphy at an earlier age?

    i mean, i don't remember'm as bein' some kinda ardent pro-lifer durin' his tenure as Governor, aye?

    - MeadHallPirate
    But doesn't that get to the heart of him being such a weasel and flip flopper? He is what he wants to be, when he wants to be it. To me, this is so disgusting and abhorrent that i will never even take a single grain of salt to do with anything said about Romney's business acumen. He is a disgusting individual and this sort of practice is on par with what they do in China. You have more experience with China than i do darlin', but you tell me...even with their one child policy do you think they get up to this sort of stuff in Beijing. Fuck Romney.

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    Re: Romney and Abortion Clinic Profits

    He is a politician. Flip flopping and double standards come naturally to them. The man he is running against is no different. Fuck Romney and fuck Obama. Two sides of the same damn coin.

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