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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    It's a matter of what you think is important. All things being equal, I'd trust the guy who released more years than the guy who minimally complied with the law. In 2008, that would have made more of a difference than it does now.

    Now, in 2012, the race is between out of touch competent rich guy vs. out of touch incompetent political class rich guy. What is in Romney's tax returns does nothing to change that narrative. If he releases them, you just find out that yeah, he's rich, and yeah, he shields his income. What do you learn that you didn't know about Romney already?

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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    Quote Originally Posted by adaher View Post
    It's a matter of what you think is important. All things being equal, I'd trust the guy who released more years than the guy who minimally complied with the law. In 2008, that would have made more of a difference than it does now.

    Now, in 2012, the race is between out of touch competent rich guy vs. out of touch incompetent political class rich guy. What is in Romney's tax returns does nothing to change that narrative. If he releases them, you just find out that yeah, he's rich, and yeah, he shields his income. What do you learn that you didn't know about Romney already?
    I guess you would learn he is smart enough to protect his income from the paws of the government. That would be a plus in my book but would play into the hands of the wealth envy crowd.

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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    Quote Originally Posted by adaher View Post
    It's a matter of what you think is important. All things being equal, I'd trust the guy who released more years than the guy who minimally complied with the law. In 2008, that would have made more of a difference than it does now.

    Now, in 2012, the race is between out of touch competent rich guy vs. out of touch incompetent political class rich guy. What is in Romney's tax returns does nothing to change that narrative. If he releases them, you just find out that yeah, he's rich, and yeah, he shields his income. What do you learn that you didn't know about Romney already?
    Why is Mitt being being so shy?
    Even the McCain camp withdrew his name.
    Maybe he's worth much more than 200 million.
    I'm not sure why revealing that would be such a big deal.
    You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen

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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    Why is Mitt being being so shy?
    Even the McCain camp withdrew his name.
    Maybe he's worth much more than 200 million.
    I'm not sure why revealing that would be such a big deal.
    Because it would just play into the hands of the wealth envy crowd. Why give them ammunition to use against you when you don't have to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldmanDan View Post
    Because it would just play into the hands of the wealth envy crowd. Why give them ammunition to use against you when you don't have to?
    The Wealth Envy Crowd is voting for Obama.
    The 20% Independents are what he needs and they want to see his returns.
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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    Why is Mitt being being so shy?
    Even the McCain camp withdrew his name.
    Maybe he's worth much more than 200 million.
    I'm not sure why revealing that would be such a big deal.
    There's another theory. That his tax returns don't contain anything embarrassing, but he has other skeletons in other places and he doesn't want to establish that he'll jump whenever Obama tells him to. He releases his tax returns, then Obama's team asks, "What about his Mormon Church records?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    The Wealth Envy Crowd is voting for Obama.
    The 20% Independents are what he needs and they want to see his returns.
    Romney is winning independents handily. If he starts slipping over the tax return issue, then he'll flip flop and release them.

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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    The Wealth Envy Crowd is voting for Obama.
    The 20% Independents are what he needs and they want to see his returns.
    I'm glad you are so omniscient about what that 20% wants. I don't know anyone who cares. I would say most of that 20% care more about who wins on Dancing With The Stars.

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    Re: Tax Returns Stuff Just a Distraction

    Quote Originally Posted by OldmanDan View Post
    I'm glad you are so omniscient about what that 20% wants. I don't know anyone who cares. I would say most of that 20% care more about who wins on Dancing With The Stars.
    I listen to what you would consider Liberal radio.
    They're actually Independents because they are very freely critical of Obama.
    They usually remark that both candidates are aware of our misery but Mitt seems to out of touch.

    My personal crowd is very involved with the political process and most are what I call Nationalist Republicans.
    You would call them Marxists.
    You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen

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