Thread: Romney Killed My Wife

Originally Posted by Danny

The ad isn't false. It merely states that had the plant not been closed (an act which made Romney quite a bit of money) the man would have been able to get care for his wife. Since the events are far apart, it's a bit of a stretch, but the whole point is to demonstrate the devastation that happens when any plant is closed. Making money off this kind of thing is of questionable integrity for a candidate for POTUS. Weather you view Romney as partially responsible for the death of the woman is not really relevant to the goal of this ad. Again, name the fact or line in the ad that is false. An insinuation can't be false. The viewer is left to draw their own conclusions after the correct facts were laid out.

Let's think this through a little.

Nobody...especially nobody that likes to make money...is going to shut down a profitable plant so it becomes a choice of closing the place and giving everyone notice and a shot at new employment or just letting it go and have everyone show up one day to find the doors locked. Either way the guy loses his insurance. If you want benefits with a job that will never go away no matter how much your employer loses then go to work for the government.

Originally Posted by lutherf

Let's think this through a little.

Nobody...especially nobody that likes to make money...is going to shut down a profitable plant so it becomes a choice of closing the place and giving everyone notice and a shot at new employment or just letting it go and have everyone show up one day to find the doors locked. Either way the guy loses his insurance. If you want benefits with a job that will never go away no matter how much your employer loses then go to work for the government.

Damn those companies not making money! How dare they go bankrupt! How dare a company like Bain buy up the dregs in the hopes of making something work! How dare they close up the money losing business!

Originally Posted by Ricardo Valdi

Now, now Danny. Calm down boy. Let's not get all hysterical here. Of course I've read the entire thread. Always do. I still don't see where the ad is false. It's an individual expressing what happened to him based on real life experiences on factual things that really happened.

Yet it was not the loss of his health care which caused her death as she had coverage for 2 or 3 years after that and before she got diagnosed with cancer.

Originally Posted by Danny

The ad isn't false. It merely states that had the plant not been closed (an act which made Romney quite a bit of money) the man would have been able to get care for his wife. Since the events are far apart, it's a bit of a stretch, but the whole point is to demonstrate the devastation that happens when any plant is closed. Making money off this kind of thing is of questionable integrity for a candidate for POTUS. Weather you view Romney as partially responsible for the death of the woman is not really relevant to the goal of this ad. Again, name the fact or line in the ad that is false. An insinuation can't be false. The viewer is left to draw their own conclusions after the correct facts were laid out.

So blame Romney who may have helped her husband keep his job for a few years, or blame the wife's hospitalization insurance which she had for several years AFTER THE HUSBAND LOST HIS JOB.. Its amazing what some people believe when the evidence is just the opposite.

Originally Posted by Danny

The ad isn't false. It merely states that had the plant not been closed (an act which made Romney quite a bit of money) the man would have been able to get care for his wife. Since the events are far apart, it's a bit of a stretch, but the whole point is to demonstrate the devastation that happens when any plant is closed. Making money off this kind of thing is of questionable integrity for a candidate for POTUS. Weather you view Romney as partially responsible for the death of the woman is not really relevant to the goal of this ad. Again, name the fact or line in the ad that is false. An insinuation can't be false. The viewer is left to draw their own conclusions after the correct facts were laid out.

Danny... dude... the Obama campaign has disowned this POS... didn't you see that?

And now they admitted to a level of knowledge which points to coordination with their superPAC (post # 165)

You really picked the wrong hill to die on Danny... this ad is a dog, and everyone is backing away from it. Except you...

Originally Posted by dnsmith

Yet it was not the loss of his health care which caused her death as she had coverage for 2 or 3 years after that and before she got diagnosed with cancer.

I guess you never heard of deductibles and co-pays. Believe it or not some people can't afford them. Of course you wouldn't believe that.

We need a national health care system similar to what they have in Great Britain, France, Canada, Taiwan, Japan and numerous other countries that are more civilized than the good ol' USA. By their standards we must look like barbarians in this respect.

Oh! We do have a national healthcare system. Its called Medicare. Why not just take out the age limit and make available to everyone. By the way the national health system of Taiwan is modeled after Medicare but they make it available to everyone from cradle to grave.

The ad is a lie. Period. It's a lie.

As evidenced by the liberals here, though, those on the left thrive on lies. Lies are like oxygen to them.

Obama could do the right thing and condemn the ad. Instead, he proves just what a big piece of shit he is. America deserves better than Barack Obama. I look forward to welcoming in President Romney as we're scraping the crusted remnants of Barack Obama off our heels.

Originally Posted by dnsmith

So blame Romney who may have helped her husband keep his job for a few years, or blame the wife's hospitalization insurance which she had for several years AFTER THE HUSBAND LOST HIS JOB.. Its amazing what some people believe when the evidence is just the opposite.

I've listened to the ad about a dozen times because its so good. Its probably going to be the best ad in this political season. Dignified of a Academy Award.

I'm still trying to find the part where you say Mr. Soptic blames Romney for killing his wife. Have you watched the ad or are you just repeating Fox News and Rush Limbaugh talking points? Or maybe the blame part is just all in your head. You have a great imagination.

Whatever happened to the profitable steel industry that these plants should shutdown. How did they lose their competitiveness. Damn those foreigners with all their technology and subsidies of steel. Nothing like a little steel dumping every generation to undermine the US. Wonder who is next China? Bad country ... don't subsidize your steel industry and dump in the US causing lost jobs and plant closings. This could have negative consequences on peoples health ... so we the US government strongly object ... really strongly object. Keep it up and we will send another strongly worded objection.

Republicans create thounsands of jobs in California in the steel industry. Only problem, they're not American jobs so I guess Joe Soptic is SOL again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/bu...pagewanted=all

For those of who only believe Fox News:

San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Controversially Made in China | Fox News

Joe can suck a dick. I hope he dies.

As for the bridge project, it looks like China is doing what America couldn't with respect to affordably building the bridge. Had California gone ahead with American labor in all respects, people would be whining about the cost. Well, sorry, but you just can't have it all. If you want a scapegoat, look to the unions.

Originally Posted by Ricardo Valdi

Republicans create thounsands of jobs in California in the steel industry. Only problem, they're not American jobs so I guess Joe Soptic is SOL again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/bu...pagewanted=all

For those of who only believe Fox News:

San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge Controversially Made in China | Fox News

And here I thought that California was a blue state all along. Shame on me.

I have to wonder when one side will finally break the loop of hypocrisy. In this thread liberals are praising the tactics of the ad, while carefully disagreeing with the subject, just because want to win. And tommorow, they will be playing the victim when it gets done to them. Then republicans will be praise dirty politics because its revenge, while being careful not to endorse the subject of the attack, then play the victim again the next day.

Dont you all get tired of seeing who get deeper into the mud?