Nothing that adds more fuel to the flames than mind-numbing idiocy. . .

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I-uhhh-have to agree.

I mean, what ? Did these people KNOW each other ?

Oh..

They were FAMILY ? They were his IMMEDIATE FAMILY ?

Gad, what can I SAY

People with mental disorders such as the killer's do their best to hide their problems - they're ashamed that they're not able to fit in society. That case was quite extreme, so it's likely that the family knew he was a problem kid/adult, but from there to imagining he'd shoot people...

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so we are down to blaming his family for not seeing this coming?

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"close, peaceful and loving family." ? ?

Doesn't sound like they knew he was problem kid.

Also, there was evidence he was capable of violence since he sent threatening text messages to female students.

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Absolutely not. I'm not blaming his biological family.

I'm suggesting that the "close, loving family" comment was way off base.

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I don't see any contradiction between being a "close, peaceful and loving family" and having a "problem kid". As for the threatening messages, the family probably wasn't informed, and I won't blame them for not hiring a detective to find out what their kid was doing.

The family said that they knew about their kid's social problems. Blaming them for not having predicted the bloody outcome is ridiculous. People with social anxiety of some kind form approximately 5% of all populations. Often these people feel hatred towards others. They think they can't socialize because the rest of humanity is mean.

How much of them go on a killing spree? Out of these millions of people, one or two eventually gets mad each year, worldwide. No more. And you think the family could have predicted that?! While he was obviously hiding it from them? Come on!

What does this have to do with biology?

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Client: In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
Tailor: But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world, and look at my trousers.
(Beckett)

In spite of the report, they did speak out a couple of days ago, and said basically that he was indeed a problem kid, BUT---------"

do you have children? I do...a boy 23 and a girl 20....they are at turns, a bundle of; inadequacies, over confidence , bluster and depression at different times in their lives...that’s kids.....I blame not at all the parents...you are so close sometimes its hard to be detached....you cannot see this coming..

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

Even if his family knew, his age excluded their responsibility.

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If they were a close, peaceful, and loving family, he wouldn't have turned out the way he was.

They didn't need to hire a detective. The text messages were part of his stalking of two females, for which he was sent to a mental health facility. Pretty Gonzoish of them to miss that.

I never blamed them for that. My criticism was directed solely at his biological family's complete indifference to his deteriorating mental health. This indifference is demonstrated by his sister merely stating that he had problems "fitting in" (which is a normal adolescent challenge).

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"...that's kids...."? ? Talk about a silly statement

If your kid was hated by everyone at school, spoke in mumbles, threatened other students, and scared everyone, like Cho did, if you were halfway decent parent, you would certainly know about and have done something about it years before.

The statements made by Cho's parents coupled with the lack of any action taken on their part suggest a group of people wholly unconcerned with their kids' emotional needs.

It also didn't help that Cho's own father and/or other people sexually abused him as a child.

Betcha anything Cho's sister is also clinically depressed.

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Solletica, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You're making up stuff (such as the sexual abuse) and making erroneous deductions. I suggest reading a bit more about psychology, and getting a grasp about real life, before you call people child abusers and bad parents.

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Client: In six days, do you hear me, six days, God made the world. And you are not bloody well capable of making me a pair of trousers in three months!
Tailor: But my dear Sir, my dear Sir, look at the world, and look at my trousers.
(Beckett)

yes.....as I said you obviously don't have kids.........

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

So how damned cynical can you get????? Really!