That analogy would make sense if you grew up actually shooting people, or if Imperator had said that Vick grew up in a culture where dog fighting in arcade games was prevalent. As it is, you seem to be treating us to a straw man argument.

That said, I don't really buy the cultural angle so much. Perhaps he got the "shaft" because he's a much more high-profile player (franchise player) compared to the Tank's and Pacman's of the NFL and because you have an incessantly shrill, pants-wetting organization like PETA taking up the cause. But Vick had to know that dog fighting was illegal (i.e. all the secrecy), had to know that organizing a racketeering outfit was against NFL policy, and had to know that Abu-Ghraibing dogs in a secret pit wouldn't fly with his endorsers.

My opinions on the absurdity of "animals rights" aside, I have no pity for him. He's an idiot.

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If you got rid of all the felons, there would be far fewer NFL players around.

And just about no NBA left.

Matt

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Take out the (black) players who father illegitimatechildren and you got ust about no basketball league left!

Nice to think our sports industry is madeof us just as many crooks as Congress is, how fitting one should investigate the other.

Vick is going to jail. Good. My faith in the justice system isn't completely out the door.

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Sorry if its beginning to seem like I am beating Mr. Ed - but this is a great article.

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you are taking my statement way out of context and have apparently ignored the rest of my comment...

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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The Falcons wanna try retreive some $22 million from him. For that they need to keep him on the roster which i know sounds confusing but its apparently to do with the arbitrator's agreements with the player unions and stuff.

Basically they wound up giving him some $40 Million or he got that much anyway from endorsements and bonuses and so on but whether they can redeem that is different matter or part of it like the bonus they might be able to which is where the 22 figure came in.

Anyway the plea saves him a Rico but ends his career and practically destroys his financial prospects in the near future, he'll have to pay fines and huge lawyer fees, no more money coming in for quite a while and money h has already been given being tried to be recouped.

Sheesh... it's going to take a lot of dog fighting to earn back all that money

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-Thomas Jefferson

Well for the next couple years he may well be the dog in that federal prison boxing ring while others take bets on his performances. What do you reckon the odds are he'll lose and someone will electricute him?

Pretty high... the last time I saw Vick in prime time, he was getting worked by the Beloved defense. It was brutally cold in Chicago, and he couldn't get to the sidelines and his blanket fast enough. I'm pretty sure he was contemplating asking Mora to bench him each time he looked over the line and saw Lance Briggs showing blitz

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-Thomas Jefferson

Things are just gonna wind up going from bad to worse for this guy, for a start the state is gonna slap on more charges for sure on him. But i don't think they can prosecute on interstate commerce can they? That'll save him the gambling rap but the league will boot him for life anyway; or long enough to finish his career.

Secondly everyone was talking about how he needs to keep his nose clean now and behave in the big house and then when he comes out make sure he sets up a fund for animals and contribute and do work for anmal charities and i'm thinking "Yeah riiiight" like he's gonna do any of that. Not a chance.

I believe that might have something to do with keeping the ecosystem intact and functioning, the failure of which can cause harmful effects to humans.

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When he gets out of jail in a year, he will be a better quarterback than 10 or 15 of the QBs that are starting in the NFL and Michael Vick puts the fannies in the seats. Maybe a team goes 6-2 and then loses their QB, there are a lot of people who will see Michael Vick as a key to getting into the playoffs.

I think it all depends on whether he implicates other players.
If he takes the fall himself, he gets back into the NFL in 2 years.
If he implicates others, he's out for life.

I mean does this guy have any friends that are football players?
Did he never say to a teammate," hey man, wanna see something cool?"
There have got to be others involved in this, and how Vick handles it determines how it affects his career.

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Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

Might as well ban violent video games.And animal torturers might do it for pleasure, not "for the sake of having them turn from live to dead."

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

the falcons are also contemplating suing him for part of his signing bonus ( over 30 million)since he will not be available to play etc...

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor