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Old 08-24-2007
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

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He can't/won't be tried for the same event/crime twice. It makes no sense to do so.

He served the sentence for the crime he committed and that's the end of it.

No, I'm not simplifying. It was simple to start with.

I agree, although the local DA hasn't reached that determination yet...
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Old 08-24-2007
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They will.

The longer it takes them, the dumber they look though. So, I suspect it won't drag on for too long.
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Old 09-22-2007
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

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He can't/won't be tried for the same event/crime twice. It makes no sense to do so.

He served the sentence for the crime he committed and that's the end of it.

No, I'm not simplifying. It was simple to start with.
I'm curious to see how this turns out, and I found this: Murder charge in death of officer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 09/04/2007
So, it appears that they did. Anyone hear anything more recent?

Edit: this is a more recent article.
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Old 09-22-2007
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

This kind of thing is actually pretty common practice - charging a person for one thing and then nailing them for something slightly different. Did O'Sullivan respond already?

Even a simple automobile crash can turn into all kinds of charges depending upon the circumstances at the scene, (injuries, apparent negligence, etc...), the mood of the cop, the mood of the DA - if it involves criminal charges...

You could have anything from running a stop sign to manslaughter and end up serving time for multiple charges and multiple counts.
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I'm curious to see how this turns out, and I found this: Murder charge in death of officer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 09/04/2007
So, it appears that they did. Anyone hear anything more recent?

Edit: this is a more recent article.
I think the prosecution is setting itself up for failure on this one...
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Old 09-23-2007
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

This is a horse that wont run,he may even be dead by the time they bring this case to trial. The time span is far too great and highly problematic for the prosecution not to mention the cost to the taxpayer.
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Old 09-24-2007
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The guy shot him. The victim had no say in how he was going to physically impacted. The shooter deserves no leniency because his victim took so long to die. If it can be proved that his life was shortened because of the attack then the perp has still got a price to pay.
Yeah, that would be in the form of the sentence the guy received after shooting him. Bere posted a good point. Many things that we do in life lead to our eventual death. This guy was shot, and it might have shortened his lifespan by a bit. If a guy eats fatty foods his entire life and dies at 60 instead of 70, do you consider it a suicide as you would if the guy took a cyanide pill and died instantly?
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

This sounds like a prosecutor who's got a lot of time on his hands.

I think a jury will be hard pressed to find the guy guilty of murder, regardless of the evidence presented.

The assailant has been tried and convicted for the shooting. He served his sentence and has been released.

People die. It happens. I think that linking the shooting forty years ago to a death forty years later is going to be, at best, damn near impossible.

Should be interesting to see what happens...
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Old 11-06-2007
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What of the fact that the guy was tried for the shooting, convicted, sentenced to prison, and has served that sentence?
Is that simply a non-issue?
It's easy for normal people to forget/not have reason to know what prison is. We hear all the hearsay about how it is a government spa with all the amenities.

Prison is NOT A NICE PLACE TO LIVE. You are believing what liberal press tells you. You hear about cable tv. You don't hear there is only one of them and 100 of you are forced to watch what the boss says on pain of rape or death. You know it's cable,but NOT because you ever dared to change the channel to see.

Prison is not nice. Liberals would like you to belive it's not as bad as tv portrays. There's a reason for that. Liberals like to lock you up but not kill you.

Liberals like you to be in prison. Guess why? Visit any prison you want. It's plumb 95% full of liberal philosophy. Check it for yourself. It's not a conservative "conspiracy"

Any wonder why liberals/democrats want felons and illegal aliens to be able to vote?

I'm not a republican. I'm not a christian right person. I'm not a christian at all. I worked in the prison system though. I couldn't help noticing they all support the democrat.

If I were to vote democrat; I'd be voting the way most criminals would. So I'm voting anything but democrat. I'm leaning towards Ron Paul, libertarian, at the moment....

I voted for clark, so it won't be the first time I VOTED for achange in the status quo
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

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The person who shot him was tried, convicted, and sent to prison and served his sentence for the shooting.
double jeopardy.
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

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It's easy for normal people to forget/not have reason to know what prison is. We hear all the hearsay about how it is a government spa with all the amenities.

Prison is NOT A NICE PLACE TO LIVE. You are believing what liberal press tells you. You hear about cable tv. You don't hear there is only one of them and 100 of you are forced to watch what the boss says on pain of rape or death. You know it's cable,but NOT because you ever dared to change the channel to see.

Prison is not nice. Liberals would like you to belive it's not as bad as tv portrays. There's a reason for that. Liberals like to lock you up but not kill you.

Liberals like you to be in prison. Guess why? Visit any prison you want. It's plumb 95% full of liberal philosophy. Check it for yourself. It's not a conservative "conspiracy"

Any wonder why liberals/democrats want felons and illegal aliens to be able to vote?

I'm not a republican. I'm not a christian right person. I'm not a christian at all. I worked in the prison system though. I couldn't help noticing they all support the democrat.

If I were to vote democrat; I'd be voting the way most criminals would. So I'm voting anything but democrat. I'm leaning towards Ron Paul, libertarian, at the moment....

I voted for clark, so it won't be the first time I VOTED for achange in the status quo
Inane babbling aside, do you have any actual reasoning to back this crap up?
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Re: This Is A Tough One...

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It's easy for normal people to forget/not have reason to know what prison is. We hear all the hearsay about how it is a government spa with all the amenities.

Prison is NOT A NICE PLACE TO LIVE. You are believing what liberal press tells you. You hear about cable tv. You don't hear there is only one of them and 100 of you are forced to watch what the boss says on pain of rape or death. You know it's cable,but NOT because you ever dared to change the channel to see.

Prison is not nice. Liberals would like you to belive it's not as bad as tv portrays. There's a reason for that. Liberals like to lock you up but not kill you.

Liberals like you to be in prison. Guess why? Visit any prison you want. It's plumb 95% full of liberal philosophy. Check it for yourself. It's not a conservative "conspiracy"

Any wonder why liberals/democrats want felons and illegal aliens to be able to vote?

I'm not a republican. I'm not a christian right person. I'm not a christian at all. I worked in the prison system though. I couldn't help noticing they all support the democrat.

If I were to vote democrat; I'd be voting the way most criminals would. So I'm voting anything but democrat. I'm leaning towards Ron Paul, libertarian, at the moment....

I voted for clark, so it won't be the first time I VOTED for achange in the status quo
I don't debate the validity of anything you've said, although it doesn't have the first thing to do with my post...
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