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Obviously significant enough for you to reply to it, Steve. In fact, I'd say you care more about my opinion than anyone else on this forum. There are those who care enough to argue it, which brings them enjoyment, but then we have you, who doesn't even argue (due to stunning incompetence in that field), but comes in for the sole purpose of acknowledging my opinion! It's like a paralyzed man going into a basketball court someone built just to acknowledge it!
That someone argues your opinions on the internet is hardly significant grounds to consider altering a law because you don't like it. That was the impetus of my position, and that was clear to any intelligent, reasonable person.

You think much too highly of yourself...
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Well, I don't consider grand theft to be a crime worthy of reward. Should we execute car thieves? Seems about right using your reasoning.

Seriously, why do you feel we should execute someone for sexual assault? It's kind of like cutting off a person's hand for theft in terms of being unequally more harmful (think about it: would you rather be sexually assaulted or dismembered?).
I find the very fact that you can ask the question ,
that it is somehow OK in your mind to allow those type predators to live after ( in this one's case , repeatedly raping a 3YEAR OLD on tape ) they have raped , or murdered someone utterly astounding and a serious indication of a lack of the ability to think clearly on your part..

you equate the rape of a 3 year old with the theft of a car?

you think it is ok for these vermin to be what ? supported by us for the rest of their lives ( life in jail ) with the possibility of escape and them doing it again

or a jail sentence of lesser time and releasing them so they can come and rape your/ my/ anyone's three year old son/daughter when they get out?
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That someone argues your opinions on the internet is hardly significant grounds to consider altering a law because you don't like it.
I didn't say it was. The reason to change the law is expressed in my argument, or is self-evident. Duh.
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That was the impetus of my position, and that was clear to any intelligent, reasonable person.

You think much too highly of yourself...
Then stop being obsessed with my posts, Steve. Given that you present no argument, why don't you stop tagging along and go troll somewhere else?
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I find the very fact that you can ask the question ,
that it is somehow OK in your mind to allow those type predators to live after ( in this one's case , repeatedly raping a 3YEAR OLD on tape )
How about the reason that a rape is less harmful than death?
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they have raped , or murdered someone
I was discussing rapes, and apparently, that is what the OP is discussing. What does murder have to do with it?
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utterly astounding and a serious indication of a lack of the ability to think clearly on your part..

you equate the rape of a 3 year old with the theft of a car?
No, it's called an analogy. The theft of a car is less harmul than dismemberment, as is rape is less harmful than death.
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you think it is ok for these vermin to be what ? supported by us for the rest of their lives ( life in jail ) with the possibility of escape and them doing it again
What do you say about theft? I mean, why should those vermin be supported by us in prison, with the threat of escape? Off with their heads?
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or a jail sentence of lesser time and releasing them so they can come and rape your/ my/ anyone's three year old son/daughter when they get out?
The same can be said about many other crimes (like theft). People can steal after being released, can't they? Do you recommend execution for thieves?
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How about the reason that a rape is less harmful than death?I was discussing rapes, and apparently, that is what the OP is discussing. What does murder have to do with it?No, it's called an analogy. The theft of a car is less harmul than dismemberment, as is rape is less harmful than death.What do you say about theft? I mean, why should those vermin be supported by us in prison, with the threat of escape? Off with their heads?

The same can be said about many other crimes (like theft). People can steal after being released, can't they? Do you recommend execution for thieves?
rape is more harmful than murder , it has many victims and the primary victim is often damaged for the remainder of their life by the rape .

it is truly asinine to assert that rape is less harmful than murder



and to continue to even try to compare rape and molestation of a 3 year old to a theft or other far lesser crimes is not appropriate or relevant
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rape is more harmful than murder , it has many victims and the primary victim is often damaged for the remainder of their life by the rape .
If rape were more harmful than murder, ALL rape victims would kill themselves.
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it is truly asinine to assert that rape is less harmful than murder
How so? Rape often causes emotional distress and physical injury, while murder causes death, which means TOTAL emotional and physical destruction.
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and to continue to even try to compare rape and molestation of a 3 year old to a theft or other far lesser crimes is not appropriate or relevant
I didn't compare them. Look up what an analogy is and then get back to me. I don't think you can intelligently participate in this discussion until you know what it is.
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If rape were more harmful than murder, ALL rape victims would kill themselves.How so? Rape often causes emotional distress and physical injury, while murder causes death, which means TOTAL emotional and physical destruction.

I didn't compare them. Look up what an analogy is and then get back to me. I don't think you can intelligently participate in this discussion until you know what it is.
I know what an analogy is, the fact is the "analogy" you try to make has no basis in reality.


a lot of rape victims do try to suicide , just because you cannot understand how rape damages one more then killing them doesnt mean it is not a fact.


murder causes death , death if you believe in an afterlife is simply a new begining
if you do not , it is a release from pain.

rape damages a rape victim emotionally , mentally , and sometimes physically for their entire life
rape also damages those who love the one who was raped , emotionally and mentally , and sometimes monetarily. it costs them in mediacl , physcologist fees .


theft and other lesser crimes have lesser penalties and are not apt analogies.
because they are in their very nature less damaging
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Then stop being obsessed with my posts, Steve. Given that you present no argument, why don't you stop tagging along and go troll somewhere else?
Because, given the ease with which it's done, I enjoy making you look silly...
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I know what an analogy is, the fact is the "analogy" you try to make has no basis in reality.
Reality is something which Slon rarely concerns himself with...
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Because, given the ease with which it's done, I enjoy making you look silly...
Uh, Steve, you haven't even presented an argument. You couldn't make me look silly if your life depended on it.
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I know what an analogy is, the fact is the "analogy" you try to make has no basis in reality.
Why not?
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a lot of rape victims do try to suicide ,
And like I said, not all. Therefore, your claim is debunked.
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just because you cannot understand how rape damages one more then killing them doesnt mean it is not a fact.
I've already debunked your claim. Repeating it only makes you look silly.
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murder causes death , death if you believe in an afterlife is simply a new begining
if you do not , it is a release from pain.

rape damages a rape victim emotionally , mentally , and sometimes physically for their entire life
And if rape is, as you say, worse than murder, than rape victims, meaning all of them, would kill themselves to release themselves from the pain. They don't all do it so your point is obviously untrue, or all surviving rape victims are irrational idiots.
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rape also damages those who love the one who was raped , emotionally and mentally , and sometimes monetarily. it costs them in mediacl , physcologist fees .
And murder doesn't?
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theft and other lesser crimes have lesser penalties and are not apt analogies.
because they are in their very nature less damaging
Which once again suggests that you do not understand what an analogy is. Look it up next time before saying you know what an analogy is.
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Reality is something which Slon rarely concerns himself with...
Why are you trolling, Steve?
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Why not?And like I said, not all. Therefore, your claim is debunked.I've already debunked your claim. Repeating it only makes you look silly.And if rape is, as you say, worse than murder, than rape victims, meaning all of them, would kill themselves to release themselves from the pain. They don't all do it so your point is obviously untrue, or all surviving rape victims are irrational idiots.And murder doesn't?

Which once again suggests that you do not understand what an analogy is. Look it up next time before saying you know what an analogy is.
you have debunked nothing , you have made obtuse and frankly ignorant proclamations about something you obviously do not understand or know anything about.

as you insist on claiming to have debunked something by making a truly asinine statement , and cannot state a legitimate analogy

I am through discussing this with you .

I will merely write your opinion off as a crackpot one and continue on my merry way
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Why are you trolling, Steve?
I'm not trolling. I'm merely advising another poster that you don't allow yourself to be burdened by facts or reality, in the hopes that it might help him in structuring his conversations with you...
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you have debunked nothing
In Slon Land, all that is required for her to "debunk" an argument is for her to say "Your argument is debunked"...
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