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Old 12-09-2007
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"Bonnie and Clyde" Luxury Life Thief Couple

Or so the media has dubbed them.

Here in Philly we have quite a notorious case developing regarding an attractive, extremely well educated and privileged couple who seem to have chosen the easier and softer way than working to lavish themselves--intense identity theft and fraud.

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Couple Seeking Plea Deal In Identity Theft Charges

PHILADELPHIA (AP) ― A young couple whose sleek laptop offered police a road map of their highflying lifestyle, allegedly financed through identify theft, hope to win a plea deal on state charges but their troubles are mounting.

The FBI is also now weighing federal charges against college student Jocelyn Kirsch and her boyfriend, University of Pennsylvania graduate Edward Anderton.

"We're investigating with the intention of charging them federally," FBI spokeswoman Jerri Williams said late Thursday, hours after Kirsch's parents bailed her out of jail on a long list of state charges.

Philadelphia police believe the young jetsetters financed their $3,000-a-month condo and luxury trips to Paris, London, Hawaii and the Caribbean with other people's money. Specifically, they stole the identity of neighbors in their upscale building -- and at least twice broke into their victims' units, police charged.

Detectives put the scope of their fraud in the past year alone at more than $100,000. They know of at least five victims so far, one of whom was taken for $30,000.

"I've talked to both of them. They know how much trouble they're in," said defense lawyer Ronald Greenblatt, who represents Kirsch but spoke for both defendants.

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During a weekend search of the couple's home, police said they found $17,500 in cash, dozens of credit cards, fake driver's licenses, keys to unlock many of the apartments and mailboxes in their building, and an industrial machine that makes ID cards.

They also found a dazzling array of travel photos on the laptop:

Kirsch modeling a red bikini at an elegant resort and reclining nude in a spa-sized bubble bath; the pair riding horseback on a beach and kissing beneath the Eiffel Tower.

The photo album, released to the press, has attracted a crush of national media and untold Internet hits.

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Kirsch was released from jail Thursday afternoon, diving into the back of a car with a hooded sweat shirt covering her face. She was expected to return to Winston-Salem, N.C., with her father, a plastic surgeon.

Anderton remained in custody Thursday afternoon. His parents, who live in Everett, Wash., were expected to post bail and bring him there.

Anderton, a youth swimming standout who swam for Penn, was recently fired from a job as a financial analyst. He has no prior arrests, said his lawyer, Larry Krasner.

Kirsch is a student at Drexel University. She was charged last year with three counts of retail theft, one of which ended in a conviction, Greenblatt said. The other charges were dropped.

"It's terrible that someone with this kind of potential would engage in this kind of activity and throw away unbelievable career opportunities in life," he said of his client. "I'm just hopeful that she'll get some kind of chance to redeem herself."
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There are some television news coverage videos and pictures in the same link.







People like this bring out the biggest anger in me when it comes to crime. I'm in court regularly and consistently see people who have all sorts of problems and disadvantages (alcohol and drug addictions, financial and/or family crises, lack of education, horrible and deprived backgrounds, etc) that played a role in their troubles. This kind of couple, however, have absolutely no excuse for what they did. They had every break in life--great education, good families, good looks, family money in the woman's case -- you name it. Instead, they choose to not work and steal from those who do in order to live better than everyone else.

The media is giving them lots of press attention--almost in starstruck fashion--about them, their lavish lives, their looks, the bewilderment of why they did it and how broadly and boldly they did it, etc.

What I hope is that the judge just calls them for what they are--evil minded despicable big time thieves who meant what they did for the worst reasons and had every reason not to be engaged in this massive fraud and thievery given their family, education and other advantages. The woman even has a prior conviction for retail theft and learnt nothing. They deserve, IMO, getting smacked to Pluto with prison time. It would encourage this kind of conduct and diminish the credibility of the fairness of the justice system if they didn't sentenced to a very long time in prison.

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Re: "Bonnie and Clyde" Luxury Life Thief Couple

I'll say this: She does a pretty fair job of fillin' out that bikini...
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Re: "Bonnie and Clyde" Luxury Life Thief Couple

And if she goes to prison, I am sure there are people there who will appreciate that as much as you do.
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I'll say this: She does a pretty fair job of fillin' out that bikini...
Thanks in part to her plastic surgeon dad. Her old man mailed her silicons for Xmas and told her he'd implant them, which he did. He also gave her a nosejob.
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Thanks in part to her plastic surgeon dad. Her old man mailed her silicons for Xmas and told her he'd implant them, which he did. He also gave her a nosejob.
I am not saying it is right, but if two people grow up with a sense of entitlement, like these two have - it doesn't surprise me that they are going to do as little as possible to maintain their standard of living.


Mailing implants? That is just ten times wrong. I'd have been one pissed off mail lady had they busted on my route.
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I am not saying it is right, but if two people grow up with a sense of entitlement, like these two have - it doesn't surprise me that they are going to do as little as possible to maintain their standard of living.


Mailing implants? That is just ten times wrong. I'd have been one pissed off mail lady had they busted on my route.
I'm sure that was where their heads started--extreme shallowness and self-service. However, most with those advantages get the head starts they need to maintain that standard with good jobs. What bugs me even more about them was the woman actually threatening victims who caught her. That adds a real nasty edge to her too. I'd like to think of reducing her standards just a wee tad bit . . .



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Thanks in part to her plastic surgeon dad.
I don't particularly care about the hows or whys she's able to fill it out...
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Thanks in part to her plastic surgeon dad. Her old man mailed her silicons for Xmas and told her he'd implant them, which he did. He also gave her a nosejob.
Really? He could have done a better job with both of those....
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Let's face it, these two will have great lawyers, and they will get minimal prison time, at minimum security facilities, and be out on parole in relatively short order. Let's face it, they don't exactly pose a major threat to our society, and the laws against crimes white people tend to commit are pretty lenient.

They may even end up with a book deal and a movie deal out of this(does Pennsylvania have a Son of Sam law?), which will allow them to make restitution and come away from the whole thing with a little jingle in their pockets.

Meanwhile, there's a brother who got caught with 5 grams of crack who needed the Supreme Court to say that ONLY 15 years in prison was punishment enough.
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Re: "Bonnie and Clyde" Luxury Life Thief Couple

They are slimey.

(Wanted to stay on topic while bumping this. When one goes to the main page...the page guests and potential new members see... it would be a shame for them to see some "Whitey" thread topping the list.)
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Re: "Bonnie and Clyde" Luxury Life Thief Couple

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Thanks in part to her plastic surgeon dad. Her old man mailed her silicons for Xmas and told her he'd implant them, which he did. He also gave her a nosejob.
I was going to say, some of that stolen money went for a boob job... You can kind of tell in the bathtub pic, but moreso in the bikini pic.

I'm not saying I'm an expert, but for some reason those kinds of pictures sharpen my eyesight.

In any case, they were knowingly doing all that with stolen money and it looks as if they are getting off pretty lightly.
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